Thanks Brian! I hope they will listen and heed! Who should I write to in order to politely express my frustrations about all of the many other changes and "features" that I wish they would allow users to choose whether or not to "opt in" to instead of making them default and forcing them on us? Sometimes it seems (to me) that many developers keep trying to make too many things so "feature" laden that they no longer work in a simple and efficient way. I have really liked and appreciated Mint Linux, but that distro seems (to me) to have gotten enormously more complex, cumbersome, and nuisance-filled ... especially from 17 to 18. I don't know which is KDE's "fault" and which is Mint's "fault," but I have been turning off as many of the default nuisance features as I can figure out how to turn off, but stuff still keeps jumping all over the screen in the most annoying ways. I finally figured out how to try to get back to the "classic" start-up menu (launcher?), but even it has been cluttered up with new extra nuisance "features" and decorations so with Mint 18, I cannot get back to the nice, clean, simple, straightforward list that Mint 17 had: -- http://www.upquick.com/temp/launcher.jpg -- Also, Mint 18 now has a really goofy looking "start" button on the bottom left of the panel, even worse and more meaningless than the "LM" logo button that Mint 17 had. I wish there was a way I could change that to something simple like a plain green button or a gold star. Then there is the annoying gold cashew in the upper right corner of the screen on 17 changed to a 3-bar "hamburger" in the upper left corner of the screen in 18 that are forced upon us and no way to get rid of that clutter. Why do they insist on forcing these things on us? What ever happened to Keep It Simple Stupid? -------------- > OK, I got off my butt and wrote up, and submitted, a feature > request for this. Hopefully the see the wisdom in doing the > change and can remove this huge paper cut from the system. > > Brian Cluff --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss