I've literally put Ubuntu or one of it's variants on tens of thousands 
of machines over the years, and only a couple of times have I run into a 
machine that wouldn't boot and install.  It usually came down to a weird 
BIOS config where a setting that seemed like it shouldn't effect the 
boot process did.  I would call that a bug in the BIOS or in other words 
a hardware issue and not something that was Ubuntu's fault.

The only other problem I've had, and it's also very rare is when the 
machine had a video card that was incompatible with the opensource 
driver, but it would be loaded anyway and either crash the system or be 
too buggy to actually see a usable display.  In those cases I would whip 
out the server install CD and install it without problem.  Then it was 
only a matter of installing the proprietary driver directly and then 
everything would work correctly after that.

Brian Cluff


On 11/02/2016 06:38 PM, Michael Butash wrote:
> So yet another chapter of ubuntu-isms begins in my life, trying to 
> install on my new desktop.  Step 1 defeat, their server install won't 
> even boot with a 16.04.1 server disk. Internal cdrom or external usb 
> cdrom, no usb thumbdrive.
>
> Then tried a 16.04.1 desktop installer for kubuntu, which got into 
> setup, but proceeded to just lock up indefinitely at the drive setup 
> screen, twice.
>
> This is really why I have a hate/love relation with ubuntu, it never 
> fails to disappoint.  My road to 16.04 has been all upgrades so far, 
> this time I'm using 16.04.1 cd's from scratch.
>
> I really don't want to have to make a circle of distro's to end up 
> back here again, but ubuntu is always so basically dysfunctional these 
> days with the most basic things, it's hard to want to care.
>
> I wonder how much others have seen this.  This is with legacy boot in 
> bios, no uefi crap, and just a basic d-i based ubuntu server install, 
> and/or kubuntu.
>
> -mb
>
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