On Sat Oct 01 16, Tom Roche wrote:
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>Anon Anon[1]
>> What flavor of Linux currently doesn't use systemd?
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>Wikipedia has a good table about 'systemd adoption of major Linux distributions'[2] which provides such information "at a glance." It also allows one to see what strikes me as a compelling counterargument. I completely agree that the systemd developers have been cavalier WRT testing, and that such attitudes are tremendously dangerous. (And I don't use systemd on my personal systems ... yet, anyway.) That being said,
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>* Fedora has been using systemd by default since May 2011.
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>* openSUSE has been using systemd by default since September 2012.
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>* Arch has been using systemd by default since October 2012.
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>* CentOS has been using systemd by default since April 2014.
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>* RHEL has been using systemd by default since June 2014.
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>* SLES has been using systemd by default since October 2014.
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I would also add Debian & Ubuntu, and note the fact that the majority
of these distros are not related to Red Hat. Red Hat is heavily
involved and invested in systemd, with Lennaert being an employee and
Kay as well, though he was a Novell employee when they started the
project.

I will also say that the spectrum of opinions about systemd exist
everywhere (including within Red Hat).

>Thousands of people use these distros directly, and billions indirectly (via the Web and other distributed systems). If systemd is such a complete and hopeless disaster, why hasn't there been mass unadoption? By which I don't mean masses of snarky blog posts :-) but lotsa Big Compute organizations telling (e.g.) Red Hat, "we are not gonna run systemd on our <huge number/> of boxes, ever."
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>HTH, Tom Roche <Tom_Roche@pobox.com>
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>[1]: http://lists.phxlinux.org/lurker/message/20160930.212605.9a9bdab7.en.html
>[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Adoption_and_reception
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