I'm super excited about this talk and I hope I get really good footage of it so that I can put up a good clean video of it for others to check out. From my experiences with systemd, there has been little truth to most of FUD that people were passing around before is hit Ubuntu for the first time. I've found it to be very stable, and it fixed many of the service starting issues that I was experiencing with some of my systems. And for one of my projects is also brought with it super easy to setup multi-seat systems. I also haven't experienced it taking over everything in my systems. Pretty much everything that I used to do under sysvinit still works under systemd, granted you can get a few more bells and whistles if you do it the systemd way, but you don't have to (at least not yet).... but that's my experience and there are definitely use cases that would require over init systems, but for me, I'm sold and can't wait to find out more about some more goodies it brings to the plate. Brian Cluff On 04/07/2016 12:45 PM, Todd Millecam wrote: > Alright, to clarify: I am, in no way, interested in any kind of > flamewar. The only opinion I offer is that if you have 5MB of ram to > spare at boot time and a multi-core processor, systemd is an excellent > utility. It's also likely to have a successor in the next 10 years. > > My presentation is for those who are interested in learning about systemd. > > This presentation is for people who: > 1) Are worried about migrating from init to systemd > 2) Need to work with systemd professionally > 3) Want to make their own services in systemd > 4) Are curious about systemd's features > 5) Need to know how to use systemd to debug OS and service level problems. > > This presentation might be helpful for people who: > 1) Know little or nothing about the boot process in general > 2) Know little or nothing about PID 1 or what it does. > 3) Know little or nothing about services or service management in Linux > 4) Are new to Linux (because I rehearse them on my non-technical wife) > > This presentation is not for anyone who wants to argue over why PID 1 > competitor X is better than systemd. I don't care. Leave it at the door. > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Todd Millecam > wrote: > > That's in my presentation, but only sysvinit vs systemd, since most > of those are just shell script frameworks on top of sysvinit--but I > talk about that. > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Steve Litt > > wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 18:40:38 -0700 > Brian Cluff > wrote: > > > The next ubuntu release is an LTS and it also brings with it systemd, > > so many users that like to stick with an LTS will be experiencing > > systemd for the first time. > > > > Is there anyone that could cover systemd's differences, what > > advantages it has, > > Might it be prudent, along with discussing its advantages, to > discuss > its disadvantages, both compared to sysvinit, and compared to > the many > other Linux init systems out there (Epoch, runit, s6, s6-rc, > Suckless > Init plus daemontools-encore, Busybox Init) to name a few? > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century > http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > -- > Todd Millecam > > > > > -- > Todd Millecam > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss