The operant word is 22 years. 22 years ago I was on a 486-66, using the 16 bit Windows 3.1 OS. I had just switched from floppy backups to QIC tape backups. I used WordPerfect 5.1 and Micrografx Windows Draw, along with Turbo Pascal, Turbo C, Microsoft Assembler, Clarion 2.1 for quickie programming, and Robohelp to make help files. Believe it or not, I still have WordPerfect 5.1 and Micrografx Windows Draw running on my 1998 Pentium III 300mhz running win98, but even if I didn't, it wouldn't be that big a deal. I can't read the QIC tapes. Big deal. My point is, wait long enough and today's necessities become no big deal. I'm pretty sure that even today's libraries, if compiled on a 64 bit system, will work just fine with regard to the 2038 thing. Embedded will be a problem, but I'm assuming that embedded for expensive stuff like cars will be 64 bit. Maybe your 12 year old sewing machine will fail, but that's about it. Meanwhile, I'd give Unix/Linux/BSD only a 50% chance of surviving the next 22 years. It will have to outcompete a lot of newer stuff. And if there's no Unix, the point is moot. SteveT On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 20:34:36 -0700 Brian Cluff wrote: > There's quite a few computers that are in daily use that are stuck > with old systems that can't be upgraded, and there are a ton of > embeded systems all over the place that don't get upgraded... It > probably won't be a huge deal, but I'm sure something weird will > happen in 22 years. It could be even code running on modern systems > but using old libraries that use a 32bit date format. > > Brian > > On 01/01/2016 07:45 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Jan 2016 18:32:16 -0700 > > Brian Cluff wrote: > > > >> We are now almost half way, starting from y2k, to the 2038 problem > >> where we could see some real Y2K like problems when the older UNIX > >> machines run out of time its and make everything become 1901. > >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem > >> > >> Brian Cluff > > > > Will anyone still be using 32 bit Unix/Linux/BSD by 2038? If I'm not > > mistaken, on a 64 bit machine we have enough seconds to last us long > > beyond the probable extinction of the human species. > > > > SteveT > > > > Steve Litt > > November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques > > of the Successful Technologist > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- SteveT Steve Litt November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss