hehe. I have a number of older model desktops (including an old Intel pentium 3 Ghz cpu) that can run the latest versions of Linux easily. That is generally what happens to a lot of my older equipment. I dump windows (or OS X) for the latest working Linux. Hell, I still have that old toshiba satellite laptop with the semi working screen here. it gets used to control my ham station by remote. Not bad , all things considered. BTW< that laptop was donated by a fellow plug member over 8 years ago. It still works and still does its job. :) -eric On Oct 25, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > why in the world would anyone buy new equipment if they use Linux? (not counting laptops---- used laptops suck! Though I did put Linux on an xp laptop for a lady I knew when i lived in Cottonwood) > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > Most of what you talk about is outside the scope of a data center. > > On 2015-10-25 15:42, Eric Oyen wrote: > time may be money, but sometimes its worth it to have alternatives. > > I like alternatives. I run Mint on my desktop. I've been fortunate enough that it just worked so it was cost effective. I like buying discounted hardware and putting Linux on it. I would have difficulty leaving home with a Mac that might cost $2k or more.... yikes. > > Still time is money. All things being equal, a top end programmer might make $40 - $60 plus per hour W2 plus benefits. Is it cost effective to have that person or someone else compile a driver for their hardware? Probably not unless they have a very specific need. They need something that gets them to work as fast as possible. I think that was the one of the points of the article. > > I used Windows for years, even though I have never been a fan of M$. Why because it did the job. Until several years ago I did not like Linux on my desktop, even though I tried to go M$ free on two prior occasions dating back to 2000. > > I think what you are describing is a business niche or someone with Linux admin skills messing with their own hardware. > > > Sure, on a mac everything "just works" (well, mostly). The issue here > is that all IT personnel need to know how to deal with any OS on their > network, including being able to edit and compile drivers for > specialized hardware. I have an old mac here (its a series 2007 > vintage white book) and I managed to get linux working on it. The key > is finding the correct drivers. If one doesn't exist, but is close to > another in the same chipset, it isn't that hard to modify it to work > (or, it may just work anyway). The kicker is getting the source info > from the manufacturer (in the case of apple, its Intel). SOmetimes > they are helpful and sometimes they aren't . > > -eric > > On Oct 25, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > > > > "Linux is only free if your time is worthless." - A guy that owns a data center told me he buys Mac because he does not have the time to fix driver issues.... etc. Time is money!! > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss