On Thu Jul 23 15, Keith Smith wrote: > > Yours and der.hans' post compliment each other. Add in what Nathan said > about his organization having several openings makes me wonder if being > independent has more value than we might think. And if corporate America is > willing to contract in place of hire. > > I think everyone should read http://www.amazon.com/Purple-Cow-New-Edition-Remarkable-Includes/dp/1591843170 > , find their niche and go for it. > > I wonder if part of the cause is high turn over. I understand the average > American stays at a job 2 to 3 years. If this is the case in the tech > world, I can see why no one is willing to train or coach someone. > > Sure makes sense to me to hire someone with C++ experience for a Java > position -- if they are going to stay for 5 or 6 years. > > Recruiting, hiring, and training is a very painful process and cost lots in > time and money. > > So to summarize.... There is a shortage, possibly created by a broken hiring > system, and no one can get hired.... Ok, I feel better now. > > Is it that, or do people no longer stay at a company more than 3 years because companies no longer feel the need to invest in them? It would be interesting to see if there is a study that looks at that and determines which trend started first. Companies aren't willing to invest in people because they'll leave, but expect/hope their workers will feel some sense of loyalty to them and not leave when a better thing comes along. Why should people feel loyalty to companies that will dump them without any hesitation if it is in their interest? Interesting article about loyalty and companies: https://gist.github.com/phaedryx/6268820 Moving to another company is most likely the best way by far to move your career forward and improve your salary, so if something better comes along that interests you why not take it? If you like your current job and are having fun, then stay there and enjoy it. In the last 3 years my salary has gone up about as much as it did the 12 before that when I was basically at one company. I think a read a book a while back about the companies not being able to find employees and saying there aren't qualified people, and it comes down to them looking for magical unicorns. There are plenty of people who could do the actual jobs if given the chance. Companies should focus a little less on buzzwords, and a lot more on someone's ability/desire to learn, ability to think critically, and ablility to solve problems. It doesn't help that many recruiters have no idea what they are recruiting for. My faborite this month has been someone wanting to interview me for a job writing device drivers for Windows, even though my linkedin profile says right in the summary, "If it isn't a job working with the Linux Kernel, I'm not interested." Jerry --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss