Thanks for the comments from Stephen and James. This has unfortunately been a very frustrating experience, having tried VirtualBox, KVM, and now even VMware Workstation, just try to get something working, and each is fubar for some reason under ubuntu. Virtualbox always works well, but for some reason won't import the disk (some kind of uuid issue reading the disk image). KVM packages just seem broken under ubuntu, as does apparmor (as usual). VMware Workstation/Player 11 does nothing but give me "permission denied" when trying to make a vm as a user, then as root tells me there is no space left with 40gb in the volume. I haven't seen this many f'd up package or app installs under ubuntu in a while, though I expect it of VMware - they can't make linux clients to save their life. KVM I was surprised to see it's as much a basketcase under ubuntu as it was. Seems if people use it, they do so with the rh variants, for a reason. All I wanted was a stupid F5 load-balancer virtual appliance to run to lab, instead 3 days wasted. Ugh. Thanks again all. -mb --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss