Organizing as a 501c3 would limit political involvement. As far as I know the only advantage to being a 501c3 is those who give to the organization can deduct their giving from their taxes. On 2014-12-02 17:23, trent shipley wrote: > The issue of either making the group a charitable organization or a > professional organization comes up from time to time. There seems to > be very little actual support for either option. My impression is the > core members of PLUG are very happy with it as an informal association > of individuals. Putting together a charity or charity with lobbying > rights (like if you wanted to advocate more CS education dollars) > would involve starting another group. > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. > wrote: >> I have been a lurker and attendee of meetings on and off since the mid >> 90s. >> I attended my once every several years meeting 2 months ago. Before >> you read >> this whole message, know that I am not trying to put anyone out or >> agitate >> in any manner. >> >> I have learned a bit about the group with these discussions which were >> launched after a message from Lisa. Some members do not get it in my >> book. >> And from looking at one of the comments, I think der.hans bounced her >> from >> the email list (I think her comments were getting redundant and that >> is I >> guess in his power). I met Lisa once, probably 10 years ago at a >> function >> hosted at a site on 12th St and Northern. My impression was that she >> was >> nice and knew her stuff. I am not to say if she is right or wrong with >> her >> complaints, but I see no way for her to bring her complaints to the >> leadership of the group. A public message list I believe is the wrong >> way to >> go but really one of the only avenues through the website. >> >> I know nothing of how the group functions or who the leadership is. I >> can >> obviously guess and probably guess correctly because of how long I >> have been >> on the list. This group is a volunteer group and not everyone will >> participate and usually only a handful of people will want to take the >> bull >> by the horns and lead. However, leadership information should be >> posted on >> the website if you want to call this a group. Examples of things that >> would >> be helpful... >> >> 1. List of names of the leadership committee >> 2. A path for members to suggest directions for the group to the >> committee >> 3. A path for members to send complaints to the group for the >> committee to >> review and address as necessary >> 4. Minutes for any committee meetings >> 5. A way to nominate people to be on the committee >> 6. An election cycle to populate the committee >> >> From looking at the posts on the mailing list and the website, the >> group >> comes across as a hobby site of 1 or 2 people (old boys club) who >> manage >> every meeting and what goes on. That is fine by me, but if the group >> wishes >> to be able to address some of the concerns that were mentioned in the >> messages over the last couple days, they need to publish a structure >> to >> abide by. I don't see how the group could consider something like an >> 801c3 >> filing without that structure. It is like putting a cart in front of a >> horse. >> >> I appriciate this group, specifically the mailing list which has >> provided me >> help in the past and allowed me to help others. I want to see this >> group get >> better and meet the needs of its members and that is why I provided my >> 2 >> cents. >> >> Thanks, >> Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. >> Phoenix Internet >> https://www.facebook.com/gilljr >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith Smith --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss