Sorry to hear Seagate is not as good as Hitachi. As I recall, there was a discussion on this list about who was the best and I think Hitachi took a lot of hits. I think Dell puts Seagate drives in their boxes. What manufacture makes the best today? On 2014-10-17 22:05, Brian Cluff wrote: > Seagate has been cranking out such bad drives lately, I think I would > rather have a used hitachi than a new seagate. > > Brian Cluff > > On 10/17/2014 08:43 AM, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >> >> If you have credible evidence that Seagate is selling used Hitachi >> drives as new and under their label I'm sure your State Attorney >> General >> would like to hear from you. >> >> >> >> >> On 2014-10-17 10:08, George Toft wrote: >>> How many [thousand] hours on the drive? I think you're gambling if >>> you have more than 26,000 hours (3 years) and ESPECIALLY if it's >>> really a Hitachi drive. Seagate bought Hitachi recently, and from >>> what I've seen, are selling used Hitachi drives as "new" Seagate >>> drives - check the model number and the run hours! >>> >>> Hard drives are killing me this year - I've spent over 80 hours in >>> rework because of failed drives - especially with Seatachi drives >>> (see >>> above). 80 hours of rework at no pay is a painful lesson. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> George Toft >>> >>> On 9/11/2014 4:06 PM, parabellum7@yahoo.com wrote: >>>> Greetings! >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a 500GB Seagate ST3500312CS SATA drive salvaged from a >>>> decommissioned DVR. The DVR's OS said SMART status OK. The latest >>>> Seatools disk utility from the Seagate website says the drive is >>>> A-OK >>>> (short test, long test, full erase, re-test) no errors found. >>>> >>>> However, the Gnome disk utility in Mint 17 says 'Threshold not >>>> exceeded' and 'Disk is OK, 178 bad sectors'. >>>> >>>> Some other SMART attributes displayed: >>>> >>>> ID1 Read Error Rate: 152141757 >>>> ID5 Reallocated Sector Count: 178 sectors >>>> ID187 Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 0 sectors >>>> ID198 Uncorrectable Sector Count: 0 sectors >>>> ID199 UDMA CRC Error Rate: 0 >>>> >>>> >>>> GSmart Control 0.8.7 is reading the same thing, 178 sectors, but >>>> also >>>> says it's OK. >>>> >>>> running an e2fsck from gparted reports 0 bad blocks. >>>> >>>> I've also retested in another machine with different cables to >>>> minimize the possibility of bogus hardware or BIOS issues, but the >>>> results remain the same. >>>> >>>> Seagate's website has a FAQ that says their tools should be the >>>> final >>>> say as they're designed to work correctly with their drives. >>>> >>>> Normally a bad sector or two wouldn't bother me, I have drives that >>>> have been running for years like that. I just keep backups fresh and >>>> check for bad sector growth. A few bad sectors is within spec and >>>> that's why HDD's have a reserved area. Yet somehow 178 sectors seems >>>> like a lot. >>>> >>>> Should I trust this drive for anything more than a paperweight? >>>> >>>> Should I trust anything with the words 'smart', 'affordable', or >>>> 'free' in the name? ;] >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> --Kenn >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Keith Smith --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss