I hate Unity too... And/or the M$-like bloated KDE. Because my long hated (and mostly reliable) Linux Mint went out of support, I decided to go with what I hate the least: Xubuntu. But I could not burn the DVD, so I installed it on VirtualBox, transferred the system to my real box, fixed up the MBR and booted my shinny new Xubuntu. No sound... Darn... After fiddling with it for a day I decided: screw it, I'll go Debian Xfce. So I got my trusty net-install CD and... It said that it needed 'proprietary firmware' from Realtek, but WAIT! It also said that I could install from the 'proprietary firmware DVD'! Which (of course) I could not burn either... So I installed it on VirtualBox, transferred the system to my real box, fixed up the MBR and booted my shinny new Debian! :-) No sound... And not second monitor... Darn... :( After fiddling with it for a day I decided: screw it, Mint worked before, I may as well give it a F$%#ING try (I *NEED* a box!)... Of course I could not burn the DVD!!!! So I installed it on VirtualBox, transferred the system to my real box, fixed up the MBR and booted my shinny new Mint 17 Xfce. And now everything works! But I am hard headed and now I am facing years (I installed LTS) of hating MINT!!!! Grrrrrrrrr... 3 wasted days later, and with a fully functional system that I hate, I am seriously considering to end it all and hang myself from a pumpkin tree... I warned you that it was a useless and meaningless rant! So there... ET --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss