Well said, Paul ... but would you please clarify one point? You said that there are "no crazy backdoors," but is it not true that M$ (and the NSA) can look at and/or extract/retrieve any data that they might want from any M$ operating system based computer that is connected to the Internet? Perhaps you already acknowledged that in your comment that any "data you put on the Internet is not private;" because, connecting any M$ os based computer to the Internet is, no doubt, "putting" all of that computer's data on the Internet. Is it not true that M$ (with their proprietary (and hidden code) operating system) can "look" undetected into any M$ os based computer connected to the Internet, wherein M$ has given themselves read and write "privileges" to "update," etc.; and is it true or not true that they have embedded a special NSA-KEY as described in this article that was recently shared on this PLUG list: www.wnd.com/2013/06/nsa-has-total-access-via-microsoft-windows/ ------------------------ Paul last wrote, in part: > ... If you have a > fully patched Linux desktop with no externally listening services, no one > (not even the NSA) can get in without going to extreme lengths. People > are so frightened by the PRISM controversy that they aren't acknowledging > that it's great insight into how the government really does gather data, > they ask for it while holding a really big gun. There was no crazy > backdoors or complex exploits involved, they just told companies that had > data to give it to them and the companies complied. The lesson we should > be learning from this is that data you put on the Internet is not > private, ever. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss