Oh by the way, if you have a docsis 3 modem on cox, you should start seeing a doubling of your bandwith. They're upgrading to the new infrastructure, and peoria just got upgraded last week. My 25mb/$60mo plan is now 50mb and I see if pretty consistently on download with supernews usenet (which peers with cox). Too bad their LA peering is saturated currently though for everything else... -mb On 02/08/2013 09:26 AM, Michael Butash wrote: > This is a common problem with any DSL, and why telco's are now simply > migrating to fiber as replacing with new twisted pair copper is simply > dumb. Twisted pair is unshielded by old default, which means modulation > is never as stable as (good) coax to modulate higher frequencies and > speeds. In-town, VDSL requires new, shielded copper runs to achieve it, > but you'll only find this if your region was built new within the past > 5-10 years (if that). It's still quite variable based on a friends > experiences just two nights ago complaining about it. > > I'm a bit biased having worked in cable internet industry from almost > the onset of the tech (not currently though), but short of fiber, it's > your best, and most stable solutions generally. I've posted some links > in the past with info on this topic as well if you do a search of > archives, but there's plenty out there. > > The only saving grace legacy telco's have with only old twisted pair > infrastructure is marketing at this point to stretch the truth a bit of > what "max speeds" are "up to". The rest is vapor until they replace it > with fiber. > > -mb > > > On 02/07/2013 04:41 PM, JD Austin wrote: >> I live in AJ and did not have a stellar experience with Qwest DSL for >> one simple reason: >> they aren't willing to replace old copper. My speeds were always >> nowhere close to what I was paying for (1.5M at the time but I got less >> than 128k)... >> >> JD --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss