Win7 was a pig for me, wanted 20g or so just to install (not cool on a 64gb ssd vs. 8gb for xp with os, apps, fully loaded), and 2gb ram to run decently (4gb if i wanted to power-use a lot of visio and other apps). Overall for as little as I do with windoze, xp is more than sufficient still as a compatibility layer to export their garbage to something usable. I found at a client of mine that used citrix xenapp, it's literally runs a win vm, exports the app over the network ala vbox's "seamless" mode, and you end up with a windoze-y app window inside linux. I really wish they didn't license the living hell out of xenapp on both the citrix and M$ side, as it would make for a nice solution at home too for my windoze-app sans windoze necessity. Word of warning, I keep my windows instance hidden on a nat interfaces and/or behind a firewall bridged at all times to protect it from exposure for lack of patching and such, and never use it for actual browsing or anything to avoid drive-by infections. It manages to keep it from being perpetually infected like most other users I see without the necessity of av, malware, and other chastity belts for windoze. Yes I know about wine, but it's proven useless for any complex M$ apps over the years. Side-note, Onlive (gaming remote render/export client) does something like this now, exporting a limited free win7 desktop with office apps now I've been meaning to try. I had tried on my phone, but their stupid client simply fails to work on my android - ymmv. I might actually pay to save from having to keep a win vm just to convert things and/or use visio, assuming Onlive fixes their damn client... -mb On 08/09/2012 05:35 AM, Stephen wrote: > It will run on 1 but 2 is better. > > And 2 cores are best vs 1 > > On Aug 9, 2012 12:11 AM, "Michael Havens" > wrote: > > virtual machine! why didn't I think of that. What are the minimum > memory requirements for 7. (I don't have XP but I do have 7) > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Michael Butash > wrote: > > Just FYI, consulting and being aatround random shops with > customer and vendor docs, I find a lot of the .pptx, docx, or > xlsx files are spotty at best what works under linux, what works > sanely (complex forumlas==poop), and what just crashes > openoffice. Libreoffice is almost useless with the new formats, > as the dev's don't feel they need to support microsoft's > continued forced incompatibility with everyone else on purpose > (can't blame them either). Obviously M$ doesn't care, as most > people just keep buying office when microsoft tells them to > every few years to stay "compatible" with their own poop. > > I keep an xp vm in virtualbox for this reason at all times, > generally with real office (well, as real as usenet gets for > clean slipstream install images), just to make sure if I *have* > to resort to exporting from it to something I can use (2000-03 > compat office formats). Seamless mode under linux i found > finally works decently, reduces the sting of using windows > significantly and hides it to keep my linux desktop cred. ;) > > Likewise creating complex formatted docs are horribly > incompatible usually under real m$office from libre/openoffice, > so export as pdf is your friend when passing back and forth to > windoze users. > > Really sucks it has to be this way - thanks microsoft. > > -mb > > > > On 08/08/2012 11:28 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > > Its cool.... I was surprised they specified an OS as well. > but the > university of Minnesota seems more willing to work with me. > This is what > they said (in part): > > Firefox or Chrome for Linux should work fine for Moodle. > Open Office for > Linux saves as Word and in other MS compatible formats. We > also have > Google Docs as a University implementation so you can use > those online > apps. > > As long as you can view the following types of files you > should be able > to access most anything in the courses: > > * Video > o .mp4, .wmv, Flash (flv or swf), > * Word Processing > o .docx, .doc (may require a document viewer for .docx) > * PowerPoint > o .pptx, .ppt (may require a document viewer for .pptx) > * PDF > * Excel > o occasionally .xlst, .xls > * Web browser (Chrome or Firefox may be the best choices, > you are > > welcome to try others) > > As Mark mentions, the only course we have that is geared > specifically to > a Microsoft product is Spreadsheets (CA 1020) but if you > want to take > that course and can accomplish the tasks without the Windows > based > interface tutorials and save the files as .xls, we'll get > you into the > section (different instructors) where you will not be > required to use MS > Office. > SO I think I'll be paying them for my degree! > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Harold Wong > > >> wrote: > > I’m surprised that the online school is requiring you > to run a > specific OS. With that said, if you really need > Windows 7 for > school and want to continue to use Linux as your main > OS, I would > recommend virtualizing it as that would be much > simpler.____ > > __ __ > > > Harold Wong > Chief Technical Evangelist – Private Cloud | US > Developer & Platform > Evangelism - West Region > Office: (425) 706-3501 > | Blog: > blogs.technet.com/haroldwong > > > > > MCITP Server Administrator | MCITP Enterprise > Administrator | MCITP > Enterprise Messaging Administrator 2007 / 2010 | VCP5____ > > __ __ > > *From:*plug-discuss-bounces@__lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@__lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > >] *On > Behalf > Of *Adam McCullough > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:03 AM > *To:* Main PLUG discussion list > *Subject:* Re: ot Online school____ > > __ __ > > > Not to be fatalistic, but you're probably going to have > a hard time > finding a university that isn't very MS-happy.____ > > __ __ > > > Installing on an external hard drive is problematic at > best. I'm > pretty sure Windows protects against that. > Licensing/piracy reasons.____ > > > On 8 August 2012 10:56, Michael Havens > > >> wrote:____ > > > they want $305/credit hour. Is that the going rate for > a University > now a days? I think I'm going to go with a school that > isn't so in > bed with MS. UMN is not in bed with em.____ > > > or else.... coulde I out it on an external HD? > :-)~MIKE~(-:____ > > > > ____ > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Stephen > > >> > wrote:____ > > > the pert i left out is if you install windows to the > drive that has > Linux on it. even if you re-size the drives to make > space it will > overwrite grub, and you will need to re-install and > reconfigure it. > alternative install win7 in KVM or virtualbox.____ > > > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Stephen > > >> > wrote: > > well personally if you can just install to a new drive > then you can > > have it pristine and configure grub... > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Michael Havens > > >> wrote: > >> I need to put 7 back on my computer for school. How do > you do > it w/o > >> blowing everything else away (ie on another partition). > I also > need to > >> repartition. How big does it need to be for 7? > >> :-)~MIKE~(-: > >> > >> ------------------------------__--------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us > > > > > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss > > > > > > > > > -- > > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will > prevent you > from > > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the > snooze button. > > > > Stephen > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will > prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the > snooze button. > > Stephen > ------------------------------__--------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us > > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss____ > > > __ __ > > > > ------------------------------__--------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us > > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss____ > > > __ __ > > > > ------------------------------__--------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us > > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss > > > > > > ------------------------------__--------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss > > > ------------------------------__--------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.__phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.__us/mailman/listinfo/plug-__discuss > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss