Test to understand wildcard behaviour: kitepilot@twinbeech[/tmp/JUNK]$ touch JUNK .JUNK kitepilot@twinbeech[/tmp/JUNK]$ ls -1 JUNK kitepilot@twinbeech[/tmp/JUNK]$ ls -1a . .. JUNK .JUNK kitepilot@twinbeech[/tmp/JUNK]$ ls -a *JUNK JUNK kitepilot@twinbeech[/tmp/JUNK]$ ls -a .*JUNK .JUNK kitepilot@twinbeech[/tmp/JUNK]$ rm *JUNK kitepilot@twinbeech[/tmp/JUNK]$ ls -1a . .. .JUNK kitepilot@twinbeech[/tmp/JUNK]$ rm .*JUNK kitepilot@twinbeech[/tmp/JUNK]$ ls -1a . .. kitepilot@twinbeech[/tmp/JUNK]$ As you can see above, *file is different than .*file and that's why your 'rm' didn't work. Which is lucky indeed, because if you don't understand wildcards you will sooner or later delete something that you didn't mean to. I'd suggest you to get in the habit of running a 'ls ${wildcard}' before a 'rm ${wildcard}' to avoid holes in your feet... :) ET Michael Havens writes: > it doesn't like 'rm *lock* but only when I entered '.~lock*' instead of > the wildcard at the beginning. > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:51 PM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com < > kitepilot@kitepilot.com> wrote: > >> There are not 'invisible files'. >> There is a 'convention' that states that files named '.something' are not >> shown in a 'ls' listing it doesn't like 'rm *lock* unless some specific >> switches are used. > > The 'dot' at the beginning, however *IS* part of the name of the file. >> Try a: >> find . -type f >> and you will find it every time. >> ET >> >> >> Michael Havens writes: >> >>> thanks... I figured it out. the lock file didn't delete when I originally >>> rm it. Apparently it doesn't like 'rm *lock*' but it liked 'rm .~lock*'. I >>> suppose it won't delete invisible files unless you explicitly tell it it >>> is >>> an invisible file. >>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Stephen wrote: >>> >>>> I would take a look at the rights and what user owns the file as a start. >>>> On Jul 1, 2012 1:28 PM, "Michael Havens" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay I rsynced things between my two computers but before I did so I >>>>> forgot to close libre calc. Now The file that was open on one of the >>>>> computers will not open on the other. I deleted the SingletonLock file >>>>> but >>>>> that didn't help any. I then tried deleting the file and then restoring >>>>> from back up but when I try to save the file the computer says that the >>>>> object is not accessable 'due to insufficient user rights'. What do I >>>>> do >>>>> to save the file. Also, when this happens again how do I open the file >>>>> that >>>>> will not open if deleting the SingletonLock file does not work? >>>>> -- >>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>> ------------------------------**--------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.us >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------**--------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.us >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >> ------------------------------**--------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discuss >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss