Agreed, I see stupid hp devices even in enterprise printers they broadcast adhoc 802.11. Really annoying they make that default, but they treat wifi like bluetooth, and in fact i think it's because of the wifi pan standard being built into things like mice. Go figure, by HP. Only a win7 feature, uses a parasitic virtual device to tap it, and from reviews, it seems unreliable as hell. Bad part is, these show up in enterprise wireless systems like Cisco Wireless Lan Controllers as rogues, can/will attempt to "mitigate" them via a rf ddos as a policy. It's simply how they deal with security is many installations. Someones gonna buy a wifi mouse and wonder why their mouse never quite works right, probably just go chew on the poor help desk person. Not to mention it's just more interference to deal with in an enterprise wireless system in an already crowded 2.4ghz spectrum. Nothing really wrong with bluetooth, I don't know what they're trying to fix. I'm curious to see what happens if the standard becomes more prevalent. http://www.amazon.com/HP-WiFi-Mouse/dp/B00556O4YC -mb On 06/12/2012 09:48 PM, Stephen wrote: > Those are indeed ad hoc hp machines and a number of people don't even > know they are even broadcasting. I have noticed it most with hp. And it > can be suprusing how far they will reach... > > On Jun 12, 2012 8:58 PM, "Matt Graham" > wrote: > > From: Jim March <1.jim.march@gmail.com > > > IF those [active wireless cards] are in fact ad-hoc, that's > potentially > > bad. > > Cell 02 - Address: 6E:4B:8D:A4:25:B0 > > Encryption key:off > > ESSID:"HPC4380E" > > Mode:Ad-Hoc > > Based on what you posted, I'd be inclined to think that some people > near the > voting machines had their laptops on and had forgotten to turn their > wireless > cards off, or were too dumb to turn their wireless off, or didn't > know they > were supposed to turn their wireless off. Remember that people > being dumb is > far more common than people being malicious. If they were actually > doing > something they weren't supposed to be doing, they probably would've > turned > some sort of encryption on, after all.... > > -- > Matt G / Dances With Crows > The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ > There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss