While the upgrades typically do "work", they're never without collateral 
damage for me.  I like the fact that typically I don't have to hack 
around the ubuntu os or install source packages that get clobbered by 
packages, so I don't end up modifying the base much as in the past it 
always mucks things up.  Regardless, upgrades have never been equal or 
better to what I'd had in usability prior, always causing some kind of 
unintended breakage.  About the only reason I try anymore is curiosity 
if they've ever gotten it right and a few small features here and there.

I've tried beta, I've tried production, and results are almost always 
the same (breakage) - it's just a matter of what extent.  The only plus 
I've found so far to 12.04 was dual-framebuffer unity works now (at 
least for a few weeks), but good chunk of core components (mdadm, luks, 
tbird, banshee, unity, and nautilus still) remain iffy for me.  The 
combination of all of them is making it painful to stay on it at the moment.

I thought a lot of this might go away when you guys announced you 
(finally) got a large multi-monitor setup to test with, but not so much. 
  I've been running 4-6 monitors for years with ubuntu now, and have hit 
just about every instance of bug you can imagine related to 
multi-displays.  Generally I've found asking for help to support 4 or 
more monitors on linux just ends with a deer in the headlights look 
(even from ati/nvidia).  I'm certain a lot of my woes with compiz/unity 
stem from this alone, but not so sure about the rest.  That just seems 
sloppy or unanticipated situations, especially when they worked prior.

It's very much an uphill battle figuring out who even to reach out to 
for things like this, often feeling like urination in a strong breeze. 
As I said, the "easy" reporting method ubuntu employes is useless, 
always finding an upgrade needed to NOT send a report (during beta it 
won't stay current more than an hour).  Everything else is all just bug 
reports and hoping someone cares to follow up or tell me what they need 
to do so.

-mb


On 03/01/2012 09:18 AM, Ted Gould wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 08:53 -0700, Michael Butash wrote:
>> Just curious, has anyone had a *good* experience upgrading to 12.04
>> ubuntu yet?  Has anyone had a *good* upgrade on ubuntu in somewhat
>> recent memory?
>
> Yes, I didn't have any issues with my upgrade.  I'm surprised you did,
> as I've heard quite the opposite results from most people with their
> 12.04 upgrade.  But, I question the logic of complaining about a bad
> upgrade to a beta system (and I'm kinda guessing you upgraded before
> then anyway).
>
> If you'd like to track the upgrade testing that is going on Ubuntu
> currently you can do that here:
>
>    https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20Upgrade%20Testing%
> 20Dashboard/
>
> You'll notice that it's "mostly green" though at the time of this
> writing there seems to be some issues upgrading from Lucid.
>
> 		--Ted
>
>
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