I briefly took this discussion with Michael offlist. Anyway, the system seemed to behave itself better with kde minimal, but still locked up once. I tried xfce again and fought with it to configure the menu like I wanted. http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu in case anyone's interested. Thanks to this depression the politicians say is we're not in the middle of, I had to move to America's bug factory (Kentucky). Since money is tight I'll have to make do with the card I have now for a bit longer. I'd like to thank all of you who have helped me figure out what the problem is. I'll keep these emails so when I can get another card, I'll have some ideas about where to get one. Try to imagine living in Lukeville and not being able to make a quick trip to Fry's or your neighborhood computer store on a whim. It's two hours later here so I'm off to bed. Derek On 11/13/2011 08:10 PM, Michael Butash wrote: > And let the list know you've defused what you could. :) > > -mb > > > On 11/13/2011 07:51 PM, Derek Trotter wrote: >> I'll keep this in mind when I get some spare cash. I tried uninstalling >> kde and installing xfce. This worked, but I couldn't find an easy way to >> edit the menu in xfce. I looked around in synaptic and stumbled onto >> kde-minimal. I tried that and so far it's not giving me any trouble. >> >> Thanks for your help and suggestions. >> >> Derek --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss