XP's desktop doesn't hit the gpu - this started in the redheaded bastard known as vista. Most xp functions and codecs don't either. Linux will by default now with compiz, video rendering, lots of things. -mb On 11/11/2011 09:49 PM, Derek Trotter wrote: > This is something I hadn't heard before. Thanks for letting me know. If > this is the problem, there's one thing I don't understand. Why do I not > have any problems when the machine is running XP? > > On 11/11/2011 21:28, Michael Butash wrote: >> You might be dealing with hardware issues. I've not seen that kind of >> problem in my laptop with that chip under solid use for 4 years until >> it gave up the ghost. I had an 8400 in my dell laptop, and those had >> serious and well known (read: class-action lawsuit) on that chipset >> for defective chips. BGA chip use began that generation for nvidia and >> ati, and they're notorious horrible at popping off and losing >> conductivity also into the 9600 series. Read about a like issue, >> something called RRoD in xbox360 or YLoD in ps3's for the same reason... >> >> When my laptop began dying from this, 2d desktop would work great >> until something hit the gpu, and artifacting would begin instantly but >> still *kinda* work. Sounds like playing a video is hitting vdpau (most >> video engines default to using this if available, thus hitting gpu >> shaders, and locking. Desktop compositing probably likewise causes >> this with complexity due to hitting gpu. >> >> That kind of hard lock could be driver related, but sketchy hardware >> is often the cause too, especially with that genre of gpu. >> >> -mb >> >> >> On 11/11/2011 01:52 PM, Stephen wrote: >>> If you want to try an alternate Graphics card i do have some AGP cards >>> floating about still. >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Derek Trotter >>> wrote: >>>> Good idea, but the motherboard does not have a video card onboard. >>>> The bios >>>> does have a setting to set the primary video adapter as AGP or PCI. >>>> It's >>>> set to PCI. >>>> >>>> Thanks for taking the time to write your suggestion. >>>> >>>> Derek >>>> >>>> On 11/11/2011 07:44 AM, Stephen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Something to consider in some CMOS you can have settings that choose a >>>>> preferred video card, and sometimes on-board video is not disabled >>>>> fully. some Intel boards are notorious for this. >>>>> >>>>> Look in your settings and see what you can find. this may help. I had >>>>> one helluva time with PCI-e graphics and Ubuntu for a while back in >>>>> the 8.xx days with this. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Derek >>>>> Trotter >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It happens whether or not I'm playing a video. Most of the videos I >>>>>> watch >>>>>> are not flash videos. They're mostly avi files with xvid, but some >>>>>> were >>>>>> mpeg1 or mpeg2. I used vlc to play them. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/10/2011 16:32, Dazed_75 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> All of your issues sound like they happen when playing videos. Is >>>>>> that >>>>>> true >>>>>> or are there other times as well? >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as what else it could be, there could be lots of >>>>>> possibilities but >>>>>> they might be hard to track down to elements that are common to >>>>>> Ubuntu, >>>>>> Kubuntu, and Fedora. If it is localized to playing videos, I would >>>>>> certainly be suspicious of the command line based underpinnings the >>>>>> players >>>>>> might use. Oh, and are the videos Flash based or not? >>>>>> >>>>>> If you are coming to the meeting tonight and can come to the >>>>>> restaurant >>>>>> after, someone there may be able to help. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Derek >>>>>> Trotter >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/10/2011 16:10, Dazed_75 wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Try looking to see if you are using the open source generic nvidia >>>>>>> driver >>>>>>> or the proprietary one. I am not sure where that is in the Kubuntu >>>>>>> menus >>>>>>> but look for something in System, or Administration with a name >>>>>>> that is >>>>>>> probably something about Hardware. It should run a program that >>>>>>> looks >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> see if there are proprietary drivers you might choose to use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I first installed the os I noticed the problem with the >>>>>>> driver it >>>>>>> came with. I checked and found where it suggested a proprietary >>>>>>> driver >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> offered one other. I chose the one that was recommended. The bug >>>>>>> showed >>>>>>> itself with the driver that came with the install and the one I >>>>>>> installed >>>>>>> later. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I AM curious though if you have some particular reason for >>>>>>> suspecting it >>>>>>> is due to you having that video card since a screen freeze could be >>>>>>> something above the driver level. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've had that card for about 2 years while the machine was >>>>>>> running XP >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> didn't have this problem. It only showed itself after I installed >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> latest Ubuntu and Kubuntu version as well as the other latest linux >>>>>>> flavors >>>>>>> I mentioned earlier. Fedora 15 was the worst. It would freeze the >>>>>>> screen >>>>>>> as soon as I started playing a video. The others would let me >>>>>>> watch at >>>>>>> least for a few minutes before the screen froze. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also if it's not a driver problem, what else could it be? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Derek >>>>>>> Trotter >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have an NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS card that plugs into a PCI slot. I >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> no problems with it in XP, but when I installed Kubuntu 11.10 I >>>>>>>> found a >>>>>>>> problem. Occasionally the screen freezes. I can't switch to a >>>>>>>> console. >>>>>>>> Also I can't kill the x server. I know the machine has not >>>>>>>> completely >>>>>>>> locked up because when I have audio playing, it keeps playing even >>>>>>>> though >>>>>>>> the screen has frozen. None of the usual means to shut down a >>>>>>>> machine >>>>>>>> work. >>>>>>>> The only thing I can do is hit the reset button, press the power >>>>>>>> switch for >>>>>>>> several seconds until the machine shuts off, or pull the plug. I've >>>>>>>> encountered this on Ubuntu 11.10, Kubuntu 11.10, Mepis 11 and >>>>>>>> Fedora >>>>>>>> 15. I >>>>>>>> installed the LTS verson of Kubuntu 10 and haven't had any problems >>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>> Does anyone have any idea what's going on or how to fix it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dazed_75 a.k.a. 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