This is something I hadn't heard before. Thanks for letting me know. If this is the problem, there's one thing I don't understand. Why do I not have any problems when the machine is running XP? On 11/11/2011 21:28, Michael Butash wrote: > You might be dealing with hardware issues. I've not seen that kind of > problem in my laptop with that chip under solid use for 4 years until > it gave up the ghost. I had an 8400 in my dell laptop, and those had > serious and well known (read: class-action lawsuit) on that chipset > for defective chips. BGA chip use began that generation for nvidia > and ati, and they're notorious horrible at popping off and losing > conductivity also into the 9600 series. Read about a like issue, > something called RRoD in xbox360 or YLoD in ps3's for the same reason... > > When my laptop began dying from this, 2d desktop would work great > until something hit the gpu, and artifacting would begin instantly but > still *kinda* work. Sounds like playing a video is hitting vdpau > (most video engines default to using this if available, thus hitting > gpu shaders, and locking. Desktop compositing probably likewise > causes this with complexity due to hitting gpu. > > That kind of hard lock could be driver related, but sketchy hardware > is often the cause too, especially with that genre of gpu. > > -mb > > > On 11/11/2011 01:52 PM, Stephen wrote: >> If you want to try an alternate Graphics card i do have some AGP cards >> floating about still. >> >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Derek Trotter >> wrote: >>> Good idea, but the motherboard does not have a video card onboard. >>> The bios >>> does have a setting to set the primary video adapter as AGP or >>> PCI. It's >>> set to PCI. >>> >>> Thanks for taking the time to write your suggestion. >>> >>> Derek >>> >>> On 11/11/2011 07:44 AM, Stephen wrote: >>>> >>>> Something to consider in some CMOS you can have settings that choose a >>>> preferred video card, and sometimes on-board video is not disabled >>>> fully. some Intel boards are notorious for this. >>>> >>>> Look in your settings and see what you can find. this may help. I had >>>> one helluva time with PCI-e graphics and Ubuntu for a while back in >>>> the 8.xx days with this. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Derek >>>> Trotter >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It happens whether or not I'm playing a video. Most of the videos I >>>>> watch >>>>> are not flash videos. They're mostly avi files with xvid, but >>>>> some were >>>>> mpeg1 or mpeg2. I used vlc to play them. >>>>> >>>>> On 11/10/2011 16:32, Dazed_75 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> All of your issues sound like they happen when playing videos. Is >>>>> that >>>>> true >>>>> or are there other times as well? >>>>> >>>>> As far as what else it could be, there could be lots of >>>>> possibilities but >>>>> they might be hard to track down to elements that are common to >>>>> Ubuntu, >>>>> Kubuntu, and Fedora. If it is localized to playing videos, I would >>>>> certainly be suspicious of the command line based underpinnings the >>>>> players >>>>> might use. Oh, and are the videos Flash based or not? >>>>> >>>>> If you are coming to the meeting tonight and can come to the >>>>> restaurant >>>>> after, someone there may be able to help. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Derek >>>>> Trotter >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/10/2011 16:10, Dazed_75 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Try looking to see if you are using the open source generic nvidia >>>>>> driver >>>>>> or the proprietary one. I am not sure where that is in the Kubuntu >>>>>> menus >>>>>> but look for something in System, or Administration with a name >>>>>> that is >>>>>> probably something about Hardware. It should run a program that >>>>>> looks >>>>>> to >>>>>> see if there are proprietary drivers you might choose to use. >>>>>> >>>>>> When I first installed the os I noticed the problem with the >>>>>> driver it >>>>>> came with. I checked and found where it suggested a proprietary >>>>>> driver >>>>>> and >>>>>> offered one other. I chose the one that was recommended. The bug >>>>>> showed >>>>>> itself with the driver that came with the install and the one I >>>>>> installed >>>>>> later. >>>>>> >>>>>> I AM curious though if you have some particular reason for >>>>>> suspecting it >>>>>> is due to you having that video card since a screen freeze could be >>>>>> something above the driver level. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've had that card for about 2 years while the machine was >>>>>> running XP >>>>>> and >>>>>> didn't have this problem. It only showed itself after I >>>>>> installed the >>>>>> latest Ubuntu and Kubuntu version as well as the other latest linux >>>>>> flavors >>>>>> I mentioned earlier. Fedora 15 was the worst. It would freeze the >>>>>> screen >>>>>> as soon as I started playing a video. The others would let me >>>>>> watch at >>>>>> least for a few minutes before the screen froze. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also if it's not a driver problem, what else could it be? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Derek >>>>>> Trotter >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have an NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS card that plugs into a PCI >>>>>>> slot. I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> no problems with it in XP, but when I installed Kubuntu 11.10 I >>>>>>> found a >>>>>>> problem. Occasionally the screen freezes. I can't switch to a >>>>>>> console. >>>>>>> Also I can't kill the x server. I know the machine has not >>>>>>> completely >>>>>>> locked up because when I have audio playing, it keeps playing even >>>>>>> though >>>>>>> the screen has frozen. None of the usual means to shut down a >>>>>>> machine >>>>>>> work. >>>>>>> The only thing I can do is hit the reset button, press the power >>>>>>> switch for >>>>>>> several seconds until the machine shuts off, or pull the plug. >>>>>>> I've >>>>>>> encountered this on Ubuntu 11.10, Kubuntu 11.10, Mepis 11 and >>>>>>> Fedora >>>>>>> 15. I >>>>>>> installed the LTS verson of Kubuntu 10 and haven't had any problems >>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>> Does anyone have any idea what's going on or how to fix it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry >>>>>> >>>>>> The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain >>>>>> occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. >>>>>> - Thomas Jefferson >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dazed_75 a.k.a. 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