Do they consider linux? From what I have seen in small businesses they go with what ever the IT company is familiar with. If the IT company gets it's clients by boasting all the MS Certifications it has, then they will be locked into MS for a long time. The sad part is that I have seen linux admins that can run circles around people with tons of certifications and the linux guy has none. The only way I have gained any ground for moving to linux with people is by asking them "When was the last time you saw Facebook crash?" Stupid way to get people to look at it but their reaction is to say Facebook runs on Linux?? On 10/19/2011 08:48 PM, Michael Butash wrote: > Here's one better: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/18/son_of_stuxnet_disclovered/ > > The stuxnet equivalent running amok in _our_ scada systems. > > Scada systems (municipal water and sewage systems) of various > municipalities can be a bit scary, usually just a bunch of old win2k > boxes with serial gadgetry applied to talk to plc's and serial devices > off in a corner somewhere on a schedule and feed data back. Sometimes > firewalls actually get involved, but otherwise a veritable breeding > ground for these kinds of viruses. I suppose turnabout is fair play for > us, but thank you windows for letting them. > > Question is, do any of these vendors even consider linux or are entirely > locked into ms? I bet Iran doesn't any more. > > -mb > > > On 10/19/2011 09:16 AM, Tom Ostlund wrote: >> consider all the checkouts at the grocery stores are running windows >> underneath the hood and you might switch back to cash for everything >> again....... >> >> They probably all have IE6 on them as well considering why would they >> update? >> >> >> >> On 10/19/2011 09:11 AM, keith smith wrote: >>> >>> >>> Very Scary! >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> Keith Smith >>> >>> --- On Wed, 10/19/11, Alex Dean wrote: >>> >>> From: Alex Dean >>> Subject: Re: Another reason for Linux. >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 6:44 AM >>> >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:30 PM, keith smith wrote: >>> >>>> Son of Stuxnet? Researchers Warn of Impending Cyber Attack >>>> >>>> Stuxnet was a highly sophisticated computer worm that was discovered >>>> last year and was thought to have successfully targeted and disrupted >>>> systems at a nuclear enrichment plant in Iran. >>>> >>>> http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/stuxnet-returns-duqu-researchers-warn-similar-cyber-attack/story?id=14763854 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Stuxnet is a computer worm discovered in June 2010. It targets >>>> Siemens industrial software and equipment running Microsoft Windows. >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet >>> >>> >>> Great summary of the whole Stuxnet saga: >>> http://www.ted.com/talks/ralph_langner_cracking_stuxnet_a_21st_century_cyberweapon.html >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss