interesting. I never noticed that before. the items that get don't appear invisible to me. in fact, that attribute seems to be ignored. no wonder some documents get confusing to me. I do have a "text attributes" setting in voiceover that would tell me this, but it amps up the verbosity so much as to make reading standard web pages a mess to filter. I posted the following to his comments section a few minutes ago: "I was reading this page using voiceover. some of the text attributes were invisible to me. the element was completely invisible. I didn’t even know that those entries were to be removed from the text. btw, I am a mac user and use voiceover. color highlights, bold, italics, other enhancements are all invisible to me. the only way I could “see” them is if I turned on “text attributes” which would make an ordinary html/5 document unnecessarily verbose. Since I cannot read braille yet (and have no braille device), I have no clear idea if these same markers would be visible or otherwise in braille. also, I have no clear idea how other screen access software (jaws, window eyes, thunder, system acces and NVDA) would react to these. more input from the blind community is needed." -Eric On Jan 27, 2011, at 2:49 AM, der.hans wrote: > moin moin, > > http://csswizardry.com/2011/01/html5-and-text-level-semantics/ > > How do these get represented in brail, via screen readers, etc.? Do they > stand out at all? Do they muck up your tools? Are they just ignored? > > ciao, > > der.hans > -- > # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ > # ABLEconf - 2011Apr02 - CfP 2010Feb06 - Free Software for Free Enterprise > # "This country has nothing to fear from the crooked man who fails. We put > # him in jail. It is the crooked man who succeeds who is a threat to this > # country." -- Theodore Roosevelt, Memphis, TN, 25Oct1905 > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss