-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have perused the Youtube vids, and am going through the FSF manuals. The only thing is these manuals really don't give a clue on how to set up some apps that are installed. I think I found the area where the native apps come in on a base install of Emacs. I actually use it on KDE4. That's another whole topic in itself. But would like to migrate it to Sawfish since is it Lisp based. It's also seeming that I am able to kinda wrap my head around Lisp. Time will tell. After gathering all these materials. I'm trying to see if it will really be worth it in the long run. I've come from use VIM for so long, but mainly in its text editing. It's sounding like Emacs is actually highly stable in console and in GUI. I'm wondering on the GUI aspect can Emacs be backgrounded like Screen or Tmux and then reattached if something needs to be done remotely. I know that you can run a pletheora of console buffers inside of Emacs and do ssh/scp and the like. Which is cool. I think I've found a mail setup file, which is a lot of what I'm missing so I can get this going. Emacs keybindings are a lot like screen and irssi so no biggie there. Over all my main goal is stability. The learning curve is not an issue. If I learn Lisp all the better so when I get to the Sawfish WM it's easy to configure. I'm looking for consistency. I hate to have to change an app because it EOL's.. OR like KDE3.5.9 got shelved and KDE4 was a lemon up til this most recent version for me. Or an app is still active but crashes on one DE/WM but is stable on another. Emacs and everything that runs inside it seem to be it's own animal for sake of a different wordl It is highly transportable. Update I found a copy of 3rd Ed. GNU Emacs How To.. VP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNOLNBAAoJEKABT2DAOAZyI2cIAII2t7ub/THf/ea5s4RfKbd9 tVPimIUx02JUBgJityLsc4d0f4r9rKbvjo3WTQn53vZRxhhEzOI7HCRAXDM+IhoX 0ipINGx/NZbiNfxv9s5LMGcTknF5qKj2IzlOceSE5HOIB0L808Z0od5VbKxMcjBL EVy83luKjBCvU9ptLOxO0ESz9yKraacAeSzbNPF3tS/bARGiCqjWlGB9JhT4kauZ ELtuLQEdtd3odUdkfmoq337qFE++1sjcp6Aqpj5+wSKr0lkDDKKx8GRFbbglcorJ gz26tVUN68g+DjYoy9wJsK8+I5WL1P+xasU4FiohcOBJ7cnE3UTgyY6ft27Eo8c= =d+7l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss