thx, steve,alan, joseph and anyone i forgot ! good pick up ; i AM doing backups with names of the month, so it IS backing up everything each time since it is a different name. i understand that but was doing it because i was so paranoid that it would miss something ... so i have two months backups on the ext hdd - oct and august. usually when i do the next backup, i put in the new month and delete the oldest one. but once again, it is backing up everything of course. so, should i try to rename the october file then just always use that for backups. ? or should i just call everything october from now on, hehehe. fine with me, easy to remember. yes, to the question, it is all ext3. randy larson taught us that in the one linux class i took in 2000 (?) to get started. he was so helpful that was one of the reason i totally got into using linux. very nice, like the people on the plug list. one thing he said, i think, was to do a 'cron' job for stuff to happen every so often. (?) is this something that would lend itself to that say every week or every month? he taught us that unlike the evil m$ you don't have the computer asking you 'are you sure you want to do this' when you are in the command line, that is why i am always so careful (and fearful ). it's also why i don't do backups as often as i should because it takes me about 1/2 hr to v e r y c a r e f u l l y check everything i write before i hit enter. have a nice Christmas party, ummmm cheese cake ! -- betty i. www.webcanine.com information for people who care for dogs. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss