Do small city colleges suffer the same fate? I have a brother that works for a small state college in UT, teaching CS and IT courses, and he loves it. Pay/retirement/time off is excellent, and has politics like any job would have. Is it worse in larger cities? Is this case the exception? Or are CS/IT folk less inclined to play politics? From my experience, "The top two OSI layers are politics and money" and are more important than the other 7. (I can't remember where I read that quote) -Ben On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Eric Cope wrote: > I don't speak from personal experience, but based on talking to professors > at ASU, things only get more political the higher you go. Community college > is less political than Universities. Based on those conversations, I agree > that Lisa sugar coated it, and may even have some chocolate syrup on it too! > > Eric > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Alan Dayley wrote: >> >> WARNING: Tangential comment ahead! >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Kevin Fries wrote: >> ... >> > I loved my time in the classroom, interacting with the students.  Hated >> > all >> > the rest.  The only way I for one would ever consider going back to it >> > would >> > be as a retirement, get out of the house once or twice a week kind of >> > situation.  For Lisa sugar coated the nightmare of politicking at a >> > modern >> > college. >> > >> > I was offered by a major university (Regius University) to finish my >> > degree >> > and come teach for them, and understand its not as bad at that level, >> > but >> > choose the corporate world because it was so nasty at the CC. >> ... >> >> Ugh. >> >> "nightmare of politicking" "nasty" >> >> Makes me sad.  Another reason our current education system needs to >> change. >> >> http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html >> >> Alan >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Benjamin Francom Information Technology Executive http://www.benjaminfran.com "Nobody is as smart as everybody.  No matter how smart, no matter how educated, no matter how brilliant a company you have, you can't be as smart and educated and as brilliant as everyone around the world. That's how open-source works." -Josh A. Krevitt (Redhat and Novell Attorney) --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss