Yup, no agenda there. I'll take UCLAs research over a blog. Nice words too, 'harboring multi-generational culture'. Like I said, xenophobe. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > >   here's a good place to start your research: >   http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_research82b2 >   the fact is that Mexico would rather have us support their poor.  Many > groups have generated reports that Illegal Aliens are beneficial.  Despite > this, the key word remains: ILLEGAL.  The situation has progressed so much > that we are actually harboring multi-generational culture that feels > entitled to American tax money.  The ideology that they use to support this > belief is particularly noxious and even some participants on this list > appear to be in support of them. >   -jmz > > > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Matt Iavarone > wrote: >> >> The enormous financial burden like adding $1.5T to the GDP over 10 >> years? >>  http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/07/local/la-me-immig7-2010jan07 >> >> You are a xenophobe and a bigot from what I can gather.  So yes, that >> kind of content in your emails will certainly turn some people off. >> >> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Joshua Zeidner >> wrote: >> > >> > >> >   Jim,  you do realize that by making a statement about filtering you >> > say >> > loud and clear that it's not about annoying emails, its about the >> > content in >> > them.  I don't need to say another word, you will be hearing more of >> > this >> > for the simple reason that there is absolutely no way that the people of >> > Arizona are going to continue to tolerate illegal aliens and the >> > enormous >> > financial burden they bring while we cut just about every service to >> > taxpaying citizens.  Similar sentiment is emerging in every state. >> >  Pretending it's not happening or pretending as if this is some radical >> > viewpoint isn't going to change those fundamental numbers.  Some have >> > become >> > very used to this issue behaving in a certain way, but we are *in a >> > completely different situation now*.  There is no more funny money and >> > no >> > more credit. >> >   So go ahead and pronounce me a heretic.  That will speak loudly to the >> > people who want to hear.  Im not interested in reaching people like you. >> >  Im >> > quite sure Im not the only one who puts zero value on your opinion. >> >   -jmz >> > >> > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Jim wrote: >> >> >> >> Since you obviously continue to not bother even reading, let alone >> >> understanding, any position other than your own, since you continue to >> >> disrespect everything that this mailing list is intended to, and since >> >> you >> >> obviously consider your own opinion supremely more important than >> >> anyone >> >> else, I am happy to exercize my right as a list member to never again >> >> have >> >> the opportunity to read any of your posts.  Good bye, Joshua. >> >> >> >> Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>  I didn't know that discussing economics was anathema for PLUG. >> >>>  Economics effects Linux and Linux developers.  These subjects are >> >>> bound to >> >>> come up, we live all live in Arizona.  Secondly, I didn't know that >> >>> you were >> >>> an official on these matters.  Trying to evoke political correctness >> >>> might >> >>> score you points in a university classroom, but not here and most >> >>> certainly >> >>> not with anyone I respect.  So keep telling everyone how utterly >> >>> intolerable >> >>> and blasphemous these very important points are.  Anyone with half a >> >>> brain >> >>> would take that as a clear signal to listen even closer. >> >>> >> >>>  Finally, anyone who is filtering or making a point of it is most >> >>> likely >> >>> an ignoramus who chooses to close his eyes rather than accept the >> >>> truth, or >> >>> even worse is invested in lies.  Those people are absolutely dangerous >> >>> in >> >>> serious situations and should be avoided in all situations. >> >>> >> >>>  -jmz >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Jim > >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>>    And the ideologues completely ignore the point - AGAIN! >> >>> >> >>>    There are important issues that need to be discussed, but the PLUG >> >>>    mailing list is NOT one of the places where those discussions >> >>>    should take place.  If you choose to ignore the principles that >> >>>    this mailing list adheres to, you will either drive people away or >> >>>    you will find yourself completely filtered out by a large majority >> >>>    of the people who read this list and expect to find good, honest >> >>>    technology discussions. >> >>> >> >>>    I guess ignoring everyone else is a hallmark of an ideologue.  If >> >>>    they yell louder, or in this case, keep repeating the same >> >>>    irrelevant point, everyone will just have to agree with them. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss