fine Matt - I will sit here and watch the PLUG mailing list degenerate into everything it was never intended to just because I dont have to read it! Grow up! Linux is based on some serious principles! Isnt it time you exhibited some? matt.nesteruk@gmail.com wrote: > if you don't like what's being said don't read it, but don't censor your fellow plug members from debating. > > -Matt > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim > Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:57:17 > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: Killing PLUG softly > > Well said, Alan. > > I was there when PLUG reformed and watched it grow into a vibrant part > of the Linux community. While we all have opinions about a myriad of > topics, the binding thread of this part of the Linux community, this > mailing list, is not, never was, and never should be a venue for > extended discussions of non-Linux-related topics. > > When I saw a particular discussion devolve into lies and insulting > name-calling, I was ashamed! Too bad those who perpetuated that > discussion would not or could not act sooner. > > Here, we are all PLUG! If you dont like being part of PLUG, if you > choose to degenerate one of the best parts of PLUG into vile ranting and > baseless accusations, spare the rest of us and take your pettiness > elsewhere. > > ::steppiung off the soap box:: > > Alan Dayley wrote: >> I've stayed out of this latest round of off-topic threads. I am happy >> to see vibrant discussion. I am unhappy to see personal attacks and >> other silliness. I'm unhappy to see it go on and on. >> >> This is enough. It's just enough. >> >> I don't go to a email list or forum on topic A to be drown in >> discussions about topic W. That topic W may be important, the points >> and counter-points offered in brilliance and courtesy doesn't matter. >> If the venue is supposed to be about topic A, the majority of the >> conversation should be about topic A. Etiquette and respect for the >> community around the chosen topic dictate that other topics should be >> minimal. >> >> It doesn't matter how strongly you feel about what someone said about >> some off-topic post. Continuing to reply off-topic such that the main >> purpose of the community is drowning into the background is >> disrespectful. Don't do it. For example, it would be rude of me to >> go to a meeting of alcoholics anonymous and use my turn to talk so >> that I might espouse the benefits of a vegetarian diet. Don't do it. >> >> - Using the delete key is not the answer because that only masks the >> destruction of the group's purpose. And only masks it for one person. >> Same with filters. >> - Flagging as "OT" is helpful but when the OT posts dwarf the >> purpose-oriented information, such a tag is nearly useless. >> - Moderation is not the answer because that will suck volunteer's time >> and smacks of "babysitter-ism" Do we really need to be forced into >> good manners? Really? >> >> This is a Linux email list created by a Linux User Group for the >> purposes of discussing Linux and subjects directly related to Linux. >> Period. Politics should only be discussed when it directly effects >> Linux/OSS/FS use and promotion in some way. To continue all this >> discussion of boycotts, immigration and the like is killing the core >> meaning of the group. >> >> Stop. Please. >> >> Alan >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss