Allen, Its just email -Matt Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Alan Dayley Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:38:34 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Killing PLUG softly I've stayed out of this latest round of off-topic threads. I am happy to see vibrant discussion. I am unhappy to see personal attacks and other silliness. I'm unhappy to see it go on and on. This is enough. It's just enough. I don't go to a email list or forum on topic A to be drown in discussions about topic W. That topic W may be important, the points and counter-points offered in brilliance and courtesy doesn't matter. If the venue is supposed to be about topic A, the majority of the conversation should be about topic A. Etiquette and respect for the community around the chosen topic dictate that other topics should be minimal. It doesn't matter how strongly you feel about what someone said about some off-topic post. Continuing to reply off-topic such that the main purpose of the community is drowning into the background is disrespectful. Don't do it. For example, it would be rude of me to go to a meeting of alcoholics anonymous and use my turn to talk so that I might espouse the benefits of a vegetarian diet. Don't do it. - Using the delete key is not the answer because that only masks the destruction of the group's purpose. And only masks it for one person. Same with filters. - Flagging as "OT" is helpful but when the OT posts dwarf the purpose-oriented information, such a tag is nearly useless. - Moderation is not the answer because that will suck volunteer's time and smacks of "babysitter-ism" Do we really need to be forced into good manners? Really? This is a Linux email list created by a Linux User Group for the purposes of discussing Linux and subjects directly related to Linux. Period. Politics should only be discussed when it directly effects Linux/OSS/FS use and promotion in some way. To continue all this discussion of boycotts, immigration and the like is killing the core meaning of the group. Stop. Please. Alan --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss