I have a motorola cliq. It was the only Tmobile android I could get at the time. I miss palmOS on my treo650. I miss datebook-plus. I miss the really usable todo list. There's way too much touch/pause/touch/pause. There's not enough info displayable on the screen, compared to the treo. All it would take was a choice of smaller fonts, to start. I desperately long for a simple "today" button on the calendar. I miss the audible application; I now have to listen to my audible books on a separate mp3 player. It also seems slower. On the other hand, the treo was somehow dropping calls and I couldn't run the "mother TED" application for really cool video lectures. Regards, Kaia Taylor DevSA group -- tis-dco-devsa - jumpword devsa http://dco-sps.schwab.com/sites/devsa/welcome desk 602-977-5157 pager 6025785439@vtext.com or white pages All e-mail sent to or from this address will be received by the Charles Schwab corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Joseph Sinclair Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:48 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: which t-mobile android phone? Not sure what something similar to a traditional Palm device is (I assume you mean the Treo phones, not an ancient Palm V or similar). If you mean a Treo phone, then a Motorola Cliq might be better, although it's not nearly as nice hardware-wise as the Nexus One. Blackberries are the only smartphones that really look like the Treo phones anymore. AT&T is the only major carrier that I know for certain can do voice and data simultaneously. For contact sync at close range, I think most Android phones are at least capable of this, but you might need to add an app for it from Android Marketplace. For other small transfers, I think you may have to use a web-service or email (which would work over WiFi, but not bluetooth) as an intermediary (unless you write your own application for it). Any phone-to-phone contact would probably not work unless both phones are unlocked and have the capability (e.g. two unlocked Android phones with an app for sync via bluetooth). der.hans wrote: > Am 16. Mär, 2010 schwätzte Joseph Sinclair so: > >> For your wife, a Nexus One from Google is probably the best choice, >> as it is the most iPhone-like and will blend in well with her colleagues' >> iPhones. > > She'd most like something similar to a traditional palm device. > >> A few notes: >> The Android O/S can do voice and data simultaneously if the phone >> radio and network support it (the Nexus One radio is capable), but as >> I understand it T-Mobile's network can't do data and voice at the >> same time due to a limitation of their 3G network. Verizon cannot do >> voice/data together either, not sure about Sprint. > > Ah, maybe it's ATT that can do simultaneous. > >> An unlocked phone will get most of your features, go to >> google.com/phone for the Nexus One (cannot be purchased anywhere >> else), which is unlocked, and has the best CPU (Snapdragon at 1GHz) >> and screen currently available. > > Yeah, I was planning on getting one there. > >> I don't think bluetooth tethering is available on any current phone, >> but you should be able to write an app for it on an unlocked phone. > > OK, I'll check. > >> All Android phones can connect to your mail server if you load an >> appropriate application from the Marketplace. >> All newer Android "Google Experience" phones can play vorbis and >> theora AFAIK. > > Cool. > >> Sync depends on software, look through the Android Marketplace for >> sync apps that match what you use on the desktop, or you could write >> your own (it's not very difficult). >> All "Google Experience" Android phones should have GPS, camera w/ >> video, full function while charging, bluetooth, WiFi, compass, >> accelerometers, external storage (mostly SDHC-micro). >> >> I don't think any current Android phones have external display >> capability >> >> One of your desiderata confuses me: >> Phone-to-phone via bluetooth/wifi (do you mean walkie-talkie, phone >> calls, contact sharing, or other?) > > I mean contact, data, etc. when in proximity. I'd love to be able to > ssh back and forth over a local network :), but I'm mostly interested > in being able to trade small pieces of data such as contact info, a > picture or a URL. > > ciao, > > der.hans > >> der.hans wrote: >>> moin moin, >>> >>> I need to get new phones. Which of the t-mobile android phones best >>> meet the following requirements? >>> >>> Required features: >>> . bluetooth tethering >>> . ability to turn off GPS if one is available . ssh out . bluetooth >>> . connect to my own mail servers . root access . play ogg-vorbis . >>> contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux >>> >>> Desired features: >>> . tether and call at the same time >>> . on phone internet connection and call at the same time . ssh in >>> across cell network . USB tethering . fully functional while >>> charging . root access w/o jailbreaking . wifi . tetherable via wifi >>> . phone to phone communication via bluetooth . phone to phone >>> communication via wifi . GPS . camera and video . external storage >>> card, prefer sdmc . can use external display ( monitor and/or TV ) >>> >>> Any features that I forgot? >>> >>> t-mobile has Motorola CLIQ, Samsung Behold II, t-mobile myTouch and G1. >>> Which is the better phone? I will be trying to do this w/o a >>> contract, so deals don't matter and all phones appears to be almost >>> equally expensive. >>> I am interested in consumer ready, easy to use as this one is for my >>> wife. >>> >>> What services/features are included in the service plan? If not, >>> what is the add on cost? >>> >>> . cell phone calling? >>> . internet access ( not just web )? >>> . tethering? >>> . gps? >>> >>> I still haven't completely decided whether I will go with the Nexxus >>> One or N900 for my own use. Will the N900 work with t-mobile? I >>> believe it will. >>> >>> I could consider ATT if I go with the N900 and it works well with >>> ATT, but as I understand it the Nexxus One currently will not work >>> fully with ATT. >>> >>> Does t-mobile carry a Linux-based, large numbered, low-cost phone? >>> This one just needs to be able to make and receive calls on the family plan. >>> Receiving text messages on the family plan would also be good. >>> >>> ciao, >>> >>> der.hans >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss