On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 19:25 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 18:47 -0700, joe@actionline.com wrote:
> > .
> > craig white wrote:
> > > let me see now... you don't want to look at 17,000 lines but I should?
> > 
> > No, Craig, you definitely should not ... and I am very sorry to have
> > caused you such exasperation toward me.
> > 
> > I sincerely appreciate the constructive suggestions that so many helpful
> > friends on the PLUG forum provide and I am just trying to respond to each
> > suggestion with whatever information I can provide as I continue to search
> > for a solution to this problem.
> ----
> I'm not sure why you should think I am exasperated with you. I really
> don't have any investment in your problem.
> 
> I often find on this list (and maybe some other lists), someone with a
> problem really has a larger problem than the particular issue of the
> moment and that is they don't seem to possess the skills to solve
> problems. Then of course there are people who have trouble discerning
> which people are offering useful information and which people are just
> tossing out ideas without much consideration.
> 
> So I try to teach people the process itself of solving the problem for
> themselves.
> 
> In your particular case, I would be surprised if the logs don't tell you
> exactly what your particular issue is and so the notion of people
> hurling suggestions at you just becomes a fairly useless exercise that
> tells you little except what they are guessing might be the problem. I
> can't see any logic to the idea of guessing when I believe that the
> system is working as it should and is actually logging the problem.
> 
> Let's put it another way...
> On Windows, there is 'Event Viewer' (yes, IIS saves to log files in %
> SYSTEM ROOT%System 32\Log file and...
> Macintosh has 'Console' application for viewing logs
> Linux has /var/log/messages /var/log/secure /var/log/maillog, etc.
> 
> The first place to look is the logs... doesn't matter what OS you are
> using. It's the first step of problem solving on any computer.
> 
> So if you want to keep chasing down everyone's guess, have at it.
> 
> If you want to solve your particular issue, start with the logs.
> 
> If you want to actually learn how to manage your own computers, learn
> the process of solving problems which begins with learning how to look
> at the logs.
----
by the way... the answer is indeed in the logs... I'll give you a
hint... it's in the 16 line auth.log

Failed password for joe from 192.168.0.68 port 43942 ssh2

Which part of that gives you the most problem and we can break it down
further?

Craig


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