>> not sure why my boot partition is hda5, Because is /dev/hda1 "logical"! > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 1 24321 195358401 5 Extended If you had asked me, I'd have said that that would not work! Maybe your Linux installation didn't read the manual... :) Go figure, if it ain't broke, don't fix it... Glad you got it going... ET PS: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ does wonders too... Mark Phillips writes: > Kitepilot, > > Thanks for the offer of "phone support". At this point not sure why my boot > partition is hda5, but it is. > > Disk /dev/hda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Disk identifier: 0x00069357 > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 1 24321 195358401 5 Extended > /dev/hda5 * 1 24072 193358277 83 Linux > /dev/hda6 24073 24321 2000061 82 Linux swap / Solaris > > Disk /dev/hdb: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > Disk identifier: 0x00000000 > > Disk /dev/hdb doesn't contain a valid partition table > > Probably set it up wrong in the first place a couple of years ago. I just > followed the netinstall CD for Debian. Anyway, I am in now and moving on to > fdisk the new drive and rsync my backups from another computer, and setup my > backups to run here. > > Cheers! > > Mark > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com < > kitepilot@kitepilot.com> wrote: > >> I believe "setup(hd1,4)" is wrong. >> Should be "setup(hd1)" >> >> I also wonder how you make "root(hd1,4)" work, cuz partitions are counted >> from 0 and only 0-3 are "physical" partitions. >> Beyond that, they are "logical" partitions, and I don't recall to have ever >> booted from a "logical" partition. >> >> Finally, make sure that whichever partition you are booting from is flagged >> as bootable. >> Feel free to post the output of >> cat /proc/partitions >> and >> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda >> (or whatever HD you plan to boot from) >> >> If the BIOS recognizes the HD and partitions, and still doesn't boot, we >> are >> facing and enless permutations of unknowns... >> I'd suggest you boot from a CD, start and SSH server, give me login >> credentials (make sure you get a public IP or you "poke a hole" in your >> router) and I'll walk you through over the phone and a "screen" session. >> I've done 46591274 GRUBs. >> >> The statement above is fairly dense, feel free to ask... :) >> ET >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark Phillips writes: >> >> > Kitepilot, >> > >> > Well, I did this.... >> > grub >> > root(hd1,4) - got an appropriate message like "found something" >> > setup(hd1,4) -- got a bunch of messages that looked right - basically >> > confirming it found everything >> > quit >> > >> > Initially, I tried root(hd1,0) and got an error message; also setup (hd1) >> > and got an error message. BTW root(hd1) also returns an error message. >> The >> > commands above were the only ones that worked without errors. >> > >> > I also change my fstab file as shown earlier (basically changed hdb to >> hda). >> > And the menu.lst was changed appropirately - hdb to hda as I posted >> earlier. >> > >> > Moved the disk from ide2 to ide1, and installed the new blank disk in >> ide2. >> > >> > Booted up, and no boot, just a black screen. I made sure the jumpers were >> > set for master on ide1 and slave on ide2. ide1 has the linux drive and >> ide2 >> > has the new blank drive. >> > >> > Checked the bios to see if both drives are recognized, and they are, and >> in >> > the right spots as well. >> > >> > Currently downloading most recent knoppix image to burn a cd and see >> what's >> > up. Any suggestions would be appreciated. >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:06 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com < >> > kitepilot@kitepilot.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > grub >> >> > root (hd1,0) >> >> > root (hd1) >> >> NO >> >> >> >> grub >> >> root (hd?,?) >> >> setup (hd?) >> >> ^^^^^ >> >> Sorry... >> >> ET >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark Phillips writes: >> >> >> >> > kitepilot, >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for the clarification. >> >> > >> >> > Sorry to be such a newbie.....You wrote >> >> > grub >> >> > root (hd1,0) >> >> > root (hd1) >> >> > It should answer that it found the stages, verify that there are no >> >> errors. >> >> > quit >> >> > >> >> > Should it be >> >> > grub >> >> > root (hd1,4) >> >> > root (hd1) >> >> > It should answer that it found the stages, verify that there are no >> >> errors. >> >> > quit >> >> > >> >> > because "find /boot/grub/stage1" returns (hd1,4) and not (hd1,0)? Or, >> >> > perhaps it doesn't matter, and grub will do the right thing when I use >> >> > (hd1,0)? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks! >> >> > >> >> > Mark >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:06 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com < >> >> > kitepilot@kitepilot.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> is there perhaps, a typo? >> >> >> No, it's not a typo! >> >> >> The drive is still hd1 until you pull the old one. >> >> >> Grub doesn't know about which drive, the BIOS tell it to. >> >> >> Once you pull the M$ drive and flip the cables, GRUB will see it as >> hd0. >> >> >> ET >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark Phillips writes: >> >> >> >> >> >> > I understand the flow....shouldn't I tell grub somehow that the new >> >> boot >> >> >> > drive is hd0,0? In your steps below, is there perhaps, a typo? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Mark >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:58 PM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com < >> >> >> > kitepilot@kitepilot.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> 1. How do I change grub on the Linux drive (hdb) to say "the >> ... >> >> >> >> If you are running GRUB 0.XX (GRUB 1.XX is different): >> >> >> >> Boot your Debian machine and as root run: >> >> >> >> grub >> >> >> >> root (hd1,0) >> >> >> >> root (hd1) >> >> >> >> It should answer that it found the stages, verify that there are >> no >> >> >> errors. >> >> >> >> quit >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then take a backup of /boot/grub/menu.lst and and make sure that >> >> >> everything >> >> >> >> is either using UUID(s) or labels or every reference to hd1,0 is >> >> >> converted >> >> >> >> to hd0,0 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Verify your /etc/fstab likewise. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 2. Do I move the second drive to the first ide port, or leave it >> as >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >> Shutdown, pull the cable from the windoze drive and plug it to >> Linux >> >> >> drive. >> >> >> >> Turn on and pray... :) >> >> >> >> Free advice, you can't sue me ;-) >> >> >> >> YMMV >> >> >> >> ET >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark Phillips writes: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I have two ide drives in one machine - drive 1 is a Windows >> drive >> >> and >> >> >> >> drive >> >> >> >> > 2 is a Linux drive. Using grub, I can boot into either windows >> or >> >> >> debian. >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> > want to remove the windows drive and replace it with a larger, >> >> blank >> >> >> >> drive >> >> >> >> > for backup storage. I have a feeling if I just remove the first >> >> drive >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> > put the new one there, the machine will not boot, since the MBR >> is >> >> >> >> probably >> >> >> >> > on the first drive (it came with the machine, and I just added >> the >> >> >> second >> >> >> >> > drive for Linux). My questions: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > 1. How do I change grub on the Linux drive (hdb) to say "the >> >> windows >> >> >> >> drive >> >> >> >> > is dead, boot here instead, long live linux"? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > 2. Do I move the second drive to the first ide port, or leave it >> as >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> > second ide drive and put the new drive in the fist ide port? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Thanks! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Mark >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> >> >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> >> >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss