Feel free to post the output of: ps aux I'm sure you're running junk you don't need. Junk that is eating memory and cycles. ET PS: More stupid unrelated wisdom: The difference between the Mafia and the IRS, is that the Mafia has a code of honor. (I'm about to print that on T-shirt...) Mark Phillips writes: > Thanks for the explanation! We don't need t hold a car wash (bad timing this > week anyway....;-)) to raise the money for the next larger linode....just > pass the collection jar around for the $50. > > Cheers! > > Mark > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Joseph Sinclair > wrote: > >> According to the free -t line, you have around 80M of "free" RAM on the >> machine. If money is tight then you're fine with the amount of RAM you have. >> If the system starts to slow down in a few months you may want to >> re-investigate. >> >> BTW, free reports numbers in "k", and the free column is the amount of >> memory actually unused after adjustments, so the "-/+ buffers/cache" line >> shows 81388 K free for program use. >> >> Mark Phillips wrote: >> > LOL.....Thanks to everyone for helping me do a better job of phrasing my >> > question....;-) and for your good suggestions. >> > >> > I agree, one can always use more >> > (clean) air >> > FOOD >> > BEER (wine for some) >> > RAM, CPU,s, (but maybe not ROM) >> > >> > I should have said...."Given a miniscule budget with no extra cash laying >> > around (other than in my pocket or the newspaper class teacher's pocket), >> I >> > am faced with two options to spend money. >> > A - $50/year for an additional 2GB of disk space, which is enough for the >> > next year or so, and we need that disk space for articles and photos. >> > B - $109/year for 8GB of additional disk space (don't need all that now, >> but >> > will grow into it), 180 MB of RAM (do I really need it?) and additional >> > bandwidth that I don't need." >> > Both amounts are due up front - ie discounted over the normal monthly >> cost >> > for up front payment and non-profit status. >> > >> > The minimum RAM requirement (from the documentation) for a Plone site is >> > 512MB. But I have run many small sites on less and they work just fine. >> This >> > one is a case in point. >> > >> > The results of free -t: >> > >> > total used free shared buffers cached >> > Mem: 368836 363408 5428 0 24248 51712 >> > -/+ buffers/cache: 287448 81388 >> > Swap: 524280 47180 477100 >> > Total: 893116 410588 482528 >> > >> > Can someone help me interpret these numbers? Based on "The "-/+ >> > buffers/cache:" line will tell you how much memory the system is >> > taking because nobody else is using it." I would conclude that the OS (ie >> > the "system") as opposed to the application is using most of the memory >> > because it can, so the app is not being starved. But I can argue the >> other >> > way as well, so I am a little lost. >> > >> > For what it is worth, Plone/Zope are Python beasts. Is there a way to see >> if >> > any of the application is in swap versus RAM? The system does not have a >> > noticeable lag when pages are accessed - it is not instantaneous, but >> faster >> > than my Google apps account. ;-) >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:54 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com < >> > kitepilot@kitepilot.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Do I need more air? >> >> Do I need more FOOD? >> >> Do I need MORE BEER!!! >> >> >> >> Give more, MORE, MOOOREEEE!!!! >> >> Gawd, I need more Prozac too... :) >> >> >> >> You will never have too much memory, or extrapolating to aviation: >> >> The only time I have too much fuel is when the airplane is on fire... >> ;-) >> >> >> >> top alone will only hand you part of the picture. >> >> Try: >> >> free -t >> >> Look at the line: >> >> -/+ buffers/cache: XXXX >> >> >> >> Memory is used by buffers that are there only for efficiency, but will >> be >> >> returned to the system on demand. Sometimes very little used stuff will >> go >> >> to swap, and adding memory will not really help anything (and it won't >> hurt >> >> anything either, other than your checkbook) >> >> >> >> The "-/+ buffers/cache:" line will tell you how much memory the system >> is >> >> taking because nobody else is using it. >> >> YMMV... >> >> ET >> >> >> >> PS: And that "airplane on fire" wisdom is not always true, but works for >> >> novice pilots... >> >> Or: >> >> My job is not to teach how to fly. >> >> My job is to help you stay alive while you learn... :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark Phillips writes: >> >> >> >>> I have a Zope/Plone 2.5 web site running on Debian on a Linode virtual >> >> host. >> >>> It has grown over the last few years, and now I need to add some more >> >> disk >> >>> space. The site is for a school newspaper, so from August - June, >> >> students >> >>> add news articles and photos. >> >>> >> >>> I was also looking at the output of top, and perhaps I need more RAM as >> >>> well? Top shows I have only 5 MB free out of 368 MB of total RAM, but I >> >> am >> >>> only using 9% of my swap, so perhaps I don't need more RAM. The site >> does >> >>> not seem slow. >> >>> >> >>> Tasks: 69 total, 1 running, 68 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie >> >>> Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, >> >>> 0.0%st >> >>> Mem: 368836k total, 363364k used, 5472k free, 8316k >> buffers >> >>> Swap: 524280k total, 46716k used, 477564k free, 67436k cached >> >>> >> >>> Thanks for any suggestions you may have. >> >>> >> >>> Mark >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss