well i see where youa re going, and i think there is a path for you http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182211&cm_re=X8SIL-_-13-182-211-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182212&cm_re=X8SIL-_-13-182-212-_-Product the f looks like it has more features in it. be warned Supermicro is Very serious with their memory compatibility. but they have a good range of Linux compatibility http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/OS/C7_X8.cfm And they have 1u down to 200/280 W that will run the lower power i5 instead of the i7 and HP uses that same CPU in a 400W psu based server. so your doing fin with a decent quality 350-400w psu im sure. inside something like the thermaltake lanbox. (good thermal cooling and quiet, can take a std ATX power supply and at least 2 hdd easily as well as up to 2 5.25 bays (for more HDD's if you want em), hard to build in but nice once done. portable small and quiet. and it may not be as cheap as an AMD but it will crunch numbers like you wouldn't believe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117226 --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss