On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Lyle Tuttle wrote: > At 11:09 AM 12/31/2009, you wrote: > > "i am such an idiot on command line stuff." > > "please excuse my ignorance" > > "i'm sure i know less than you" > > I'm not sure what, but something seems really out of place here for > PLUG.  Maybe there's something in the valley water supply?  :) > > snip, snip > > Something to consider: > > Maybe it's a good sign......must be more and more "non-geeks" who are > finding Linux...and trying to use it, and have come for help..... Hi Lyle, We're certainly in a new phase. I have a friend in Germany (not a geek, she studies medieval lit) and she managed to get Ubuntu up an running and video chatting with me with minimal support and she likes it. Initially I suggested she not try thinking I would be stuck in the defacto support position. Shes done really well with it and I'm really amazed. Slowly she will pick up little skills like using the shell ,etc. I have to say the primary deficiency for The Peoples Linux (volkslinux? :) is good audio and video support. It's just not up to par OTB. Ubuntu should probably concentrate more on laptops, maintaining specialized distros for specific models. I see Google as playing an increasing role in linux adoption, but the expansion of cell devices might actually cut off development of desktop linux. Many PC tasks will be done on a cell phone in the near future. We will reach a point eventually where M$ will get pinned down and the role of linux will change quickly. Their last few years encompassing my time spent contributing to this list have been very bad from a shareholder and customer position. Another interesting point is Europe's role in Linux. Its an important one because they tend to be much tougher on monopolies and abusive corporations. All that needs to happen is have one place where linux becomes an attractive choice, and the global market will shift. M$ has done many things, especially in the third world (Ive mentioned a few before) to prohibit this from happening. But, these activities come at an ever increasing cost. Plain and simple, they are not a nice corporation even though they might contribute to charities and so forth, not to even begin to mention the untold damage done to innovation and the people like you and I that could be contributing to it. -jmz > > Every end user that can be assured of easy use or solutions to problems just > means one more 'walking, talking advertisement' for Linux...... > > Where else would you have someone go to find these answers - or is it PLUG's > idea to keep Linux to themselves?  I sincerely doubt that...... > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss