Jason Spatafore wrote: > On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 15:20 -0700, Ryan Rix wrote: >> > The president is asking for permission...it is up to us to grant it. >> No, it's up to the people who the lobbyists elected. > > *YOU* had a direct vote in their election to office and your vote was > just as meaningful as the lobbyists with equal weight. Again, we can say > it's corrupt all we want but *WE* do have a say. We do get to vote. And > we all know that every representative does not represent all their > constituents. Who pays for the advertisements and the money that gives the people who run for office the power and the footprint to actually get elected? Not me or anyone else; the lobbyists who want those people elected, the lobbyists who then control those who are in office. Ryan > > Until the representatives are removed...we will constantly struggle with > this so-called Democracy. Technology has finally caught up to where it > can be used for a direct Democratic country with lower costs than > running elections every two years. Now is the time to start > implementing. > > And yes, my first vote is to eliminate paper ballots and bar people > without access to computers from elections. Sorry, a computer is > available almost everywhere you go. It's time to grow with the times and > move on. How do you deal with the security implications/identity crises that computer based voting introduces? -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Fortune: "Gee, Toto, I don't think we are in Kansas anymore." http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonaleash@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonaleash@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: PhrkOnLsh@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss