On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > Nothing substantial can be organized unless there is clear > management. Who will determine what is an 'improvement' and what is a > total failure? PLUG needs to grow up and harness the talents that we > currently have in abundance. Stop with these silly games pretending > no one is running the show. Someone pays the domain renewal bill (if any); someone pays, or calls a favor, with the location the box is hosted; someone has root on that box. Find those answers, and you have the throat to choke. Unhappy with those answers? Can't figure it out? Fork and out-perform the incumbent. Running code talks. This is FOSS after all. No slam on der Hans, or Lisa. Running a LUG is hard; running it for years and years is even harder Bring your own domain registration for a LUG, and I'll provide access to a host for a virthost website, mailing list, etc on a box that has in its past hosted Distrowatch, the Metro Detroit LUG, the Tampa LUG, a couple of defunct LUGs, and the Central OH LUG (currently). Others as well, but I fergit. But kvetching about it and not acting is just pointless. -- Russ herrold --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss