Yeah, that's why TrueCrypt's ability to "hide" the volume on a device is so awesome. The idea is, people don't realize anything is even there to BE encrypted. One thing I was reading about with regard to plausible deniability is to hide your volumes inside of other files. For example, I have a jump drive that just happens to have a redist copy of DirectX on it. In there, I tossed a new file that is named similarly to the other files and is similar in size. If someone were to check the drive, it would appear to just be a binary file in the DirectX software. It is, in fact, and encrypted volume that I use to store my passwords (as encrypted with Password Gorilla). The only trick, then, is to change the date of the volume back to the date of all the other files whenever it is changed. The idea being that I can deny that there's anything of interest I know about on the drive, and it's plausible because it looks like it's just a copy of DirectX..... along with a bunch of other drivers and freeware tools for fixing windoze boxes. It's there, hiding in plain sight. Just my 2 cents. -Joe Jim March wrote: > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Mike Schwartz wrote: >> Oh, so *** that's *** what the phrase "rubber hose decryption" means; >> in some previous post (probably recently - in the parent thread?) that >> phrase was used but I thought maybe it was some FOSS tool that I was not >> familiar with. > > Heh. > > Yeah, as ghastly as the topic may be, the plain fact is that passwords > stored in your "personal wetware" are vulnerable to that particular > "security hole". > > Security and encryption discussions have to encompass the full threat, > and that's definitely one of 'em. > > It's even been discussed on XKCD: > > http://xkcd.com/538/ > > Jim > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss