a good clip w/ Jay Rockefeller on CSPAN : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS4uJeMs0Yc -jmz On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >  Lisa, > >   Im not sure if youre really capturing the spirit of this proposal. > Jay Rockefeller has been trying to find a way to put controls on the > internet for years.  Of course were told that it's for our own safety, > and to reduce 'systemic risk'.  What its really about is inviting the > government into the management of our communications infrastructure > (hardly a new theme in American history). > >  -jmz > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >>> >>> just thought some here might find this informative: >>> >>> >>> http://musings.denninger.net/archives/198-The-Constitution-Dies-To-Thunderous-Applause.html?ref=joshuazeidner.com >>> >>> -jmz >> >> I read the purpose of the bill, which is: >> >> To ensure the continued free flow of commerce within the United States >> and with its global trading partners through secure cyber communications, >> to provide for the continued development and exploitation of the >> Internet and intranet communications for such purposes, to provide for >> the development of a cadre of information technology specialists to improve >> and maintain effective cyber security defenses against disruption, >> and for other purposes. >> >> I did see Denniger has some real person interests he feels threatened here, >> however, I don't read any of his fears outlined in the link you provide from >> the actual "working draft" pdf [careful opening a PDF is a serious security >> risk]. >> >> I have worked my whole life in this security systems economy of profit, and >> much as I hate loss of what we once fancied as "freedoms", we all saw the >> writing on the wall with any "information technology", so I have to agree >> wholeheartedly (after working contract for the Department of the Army) that >> these measures are certainly overdue and the budget set forth too little too >> late. >> >> -- >> www.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 >> "Contradictions do not exist." A. Rand >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss