Quoting: --- I found the hard way that you are right. I've lost hours just to find out that the computer is still unusable. I'm wiping the disk and installing Ubuntu from scratch. I'll have to train my customer to use Ubuntu, but at least the computer will be working :) --- IF the system has enough horsepower (in my view at least a P4/1.5 CPU and a gig or more memory) a WinXP virtual machine is always an option. A lot of us have Win-specific apps we can't walk away from. In my case it's the ability to take apart Diebold election databases in MS-Access. I have the lowest-grade dual-core Intel CPU available, the "Pentium dual-core" in a $500 budget laptop (eight months ago) with 2gig RAM and VirtualBox/XP under Linux works great. This recipe uses Linux to surround and protect with WinXP setup, with Linux acting as a super firewall from hell. And if the WinXP image gets screwed up, no problem, assuming you do backups at all the entire Windows image is just a single file in the Linux home directory. Restore that file and you're back in business. If you use the "full tilt" VirtualBox downloaded off their site (as opposed to the "open source edition" from the Ubuntu repositories, you get USB pass-through and directory sharing between the Linux host OS and the Windows guest. USB pass-through means you can take a USB device like a printer, even one that Linux totally chokes on like a Lexmark, and pass that port through to Windows and run it in Windows with a Windows driver. Way cool. Directory sharing means that in the Virtualbox controller/setup app in Linux, you assign Linux directories to be shared with the Windows guest. From Windows, you do "network drive letters" up into the Linux filespace. That lets you keep all your data in Linux formats, accessible to both OSes...and if Windows breaks forcing you to restore it from backups, no data is lost! It's impossible to overstate how cool this is, and how it radically helps users transfer from Windows to Linux. Jim --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss