On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:43 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:24 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: > > On 4/1/09, Bryan O'Neal wrote: > > > I have no issue with red-light cameras, if they provide a yellow light of > > > adequate length to safely stop after noticing the light change, say 5 or 6 > > > seconds. As for the speed cameras, well, I am agenst speed limits and > > > believe it should be safe and prudent as seen by an officer and confirmed by > > > a judge. As for the cameras in particular, no one has been able to make > > > public a report showing they do anything other then annoy drivers. Accidents > > > have not gone down ... > > > > Photo radar saves lives. Period. > > > > According to the Arizona State Department of Public Safety, because of photo > > radar, crashes are down by 12%, injuries have been cut by 17%, and fatality > > collisions are down by 29% on Phoenix-area highways. > > > > No clear-thinking person would want to eliminate photo radar simply because > > of their personal desire to want to disregard and disobey highway speed laws. > ---- > The state tried to increase revenue with these cameras and implemented a > system where there was only a single financial penalty for being > captured on photo radar. No points against your license, no report to > insurance...just money. > > While there is a direct correlation to speed and fatalities, there's no > accommodation for reasonable and prudent, only a hard line between 75 & > 76 mp/h where money changes hands. 76 mp/h during rush hours is > infinitely more dangerous than at 11:00 pm when the traffic is sparse. > > If speed were the only issue, let's just lower the speed limits > everywhere and people will be much safer. I am quite certain that if the > speed limit on the 101 was 45 mp/h, there would hardly be any > fatalities. > > Craig > Except in the case of "Criminal" speeding (20+ mph over the posted limit). Even at 4:00AM with no other traffic around, the DPS will come to your home or workplace and haul you off to jail, no other evidence is required for a conviction, and you can't defend yourself against a camera. A little to "Big Brother" for my liking. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss