True, or simply require auto manufactures to put limiters as factory standard equipment making it imposable for any car to ever drive above 75mph. The fact is it is not about safety, if it was points would be used and repeat offenders would have their licenses revoked. -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Craig White Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:44 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: OT: Speed Cams On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:24 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: > On 4/1/09, Bryan O'Neal wrote: > > I have no issue with red-light cameras, if they provide a yellow > > light of adequate length to safely stop after noticing the light > > change, say 5 or 6 seconds. As for the speed cameras, well, I am > > agenst speed limits and believe it should be safe and prudent as > > seen by an officer and confirmed by a judge. As for the cameras in > > particular, no one has been able to make public a report showing > > they do anything other then annoy drivers. Accidents have not gone down ... > > Photo radar saves lives. Period. > > According to the Arizona State Department of Public Safety, because of > photo radar, crashes are down by 12%, injuries have been cut by 17%, > and fatality collisions are down by 29% on Phoenix-area highways. > > No clear-thinking person would want to eliminate photo radar simply > because of their personal desire to want to disregard and disobey highway speed laws. ---- The state tried to increase revenue with these cameras and implemented a system where there was only a single financial penalty for being captured on photo radar. No points against your license, no report to insurance...just money. While there is a direct correlation to speed and fatalities, there's no accommodation for reasonable and prudent, only a hard line between 75 & 76 mp/h where money changes hands. 76 mp/h during rush hours is infinitely more dangerous than at 11:00 pm when the traffic is sparse. If speed were the only issue, let's just lower the speed limits everywhere and people will be much safer. I am quite certain that if the speed limit on the 101 was 45 mp/h, there would hardly be any fatalities. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss