I think one main thing is "Either these things matter to your client or they don't.". If there were a base product or a series of products that just needed assembling to be as good or better then Exchange. I would think a group of people could stitch it all together in a way that would be sellable. Unfortunately I think there are some missing pieces. I think a big set of use cases would be helpful. The other thing as a developer that comes to mind is SVN being a better version of CVS. We need free software version of exchange that from its beginnings was designed by the hive mind :) ex. Should be able to be do online backups Should be able to run as a cluster of machines so load could be distributed ... etc What I think is that if there were the equivalent of Apache but in the Collaboration space that would be great. All the current players I think are Commercial Open source that means they have investors or shareholders to answer to. If there was a solution available I think people such as Bryan could advocate using it in place of exchange. Did this search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=exchange+replacements&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=y&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images Found http://zarafa.com/ which is different from Zimbra do not know anything about it. You also have these companies that have already written a bunch of stuff and then decide to open source it. This generally does not work because the requirements were gathered by a single company trying to solve a problem on their own. I think Mozilla was mired with issues at first for some of the same reasons. > Either these things matter to you or they don't. > > Craig > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss