On Thursday 19 February 2009 20:07:10 Bryan O'Neal wrote: > I'm going to go with your IT people are doing it wrong :) I liked > exchange, then I had to administer it and at first I hated exchange, but > now I love it. I have very few problems. I would say as many as I have > with any MS product. On my Linux boxes I just IMAP'ed for email and used > an ical converter for calendaring (though I am told there are cleaner ways > I never revisited after I set it up in 2006) In truth I have been exchange > free for about six months now and have missed it greatly. Google Apps > works well enough and if I could get desktop syncing of my contacts I would > probably be fine since there is no enterprise to collaborate with anymore. > But really, Exchange/Outlook are, unfortunately, the best PIM server/client > combo I have found. And with the inclusion in MS Server2003/2007 SBE for > just a few hundred dollars, it is hard to ignore. That and I have to say > that for administering a few dozen blackberry's the BES/Exchange > integration was a very nice thing to have. > > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Alan > Dayley > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:38 PM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?) > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Stephen wrote: > > I agree on exchange really > > If you need just email exchange is the wrong thing but if you are > > looking at all the other stuff I haven't seen anything close without > > some serious work and cobbling > > As a forced user of Exchange via Outlook I consider the combination proof > that MS is a monopoly. The number of UI odd-nesses, broken metaphors, > failures to schedule, etc. that I regularly suffer with amaze me. If it > was a tool competing in a fair market, it would have been ridiculed and > died. (Or our IT people are doing it wrong.) > > That said, I have not been an administrator of such a server nor have I > used other competing solutions, other than Google. But I am saddened to > think that Exchange and Outlook, as broken as they are, represent the best > enterprise PIM solution available. Sad indeed. > > Alan > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss You can do contact and calendar sync with gmail and KDE kontact, if you enable IMAP in your google account. Works quite well. nathan -- Nathan England ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PaysonLinux OE 1.98.9 http://www.PaysonLinux.org/ Core Development Team nathan . paysonlinux . org --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss