> My personal list of Distributions i have spent some real quality time with > > Ubuntu/Debian > Fedora/Red Hat new and old/Centos > Suse/Opensuse > Gentoo You should take some time to look at Arch. While it isn't particularly new (2002 first release) it is basically the ideal distro. Packaging extremely easy to get your head around, and they have source and binary mechanisms for package management to cater to any needs you might have. They also tend to avoid patching upstream code, believing that the authors of the software probably know their code better than a packager. makepkg is their source package manager, this handles source dependency resolution etc etc... abs also provides you with a source tree similar to /usr/portage ... while there are no use flags, you can edit the PKGBUILD yourself. It also has a file to edit build optimizations and the like. pacman is their binary package manager, it is very well featured, and supports most of what you'd likely expect. It doesn't replace config files though, which you'll be familiar with via Gentoo. I think the tool is called the same thing as Gentoo, but for some reason I can't remember the name of it atm (using a different distro for beta testing atm) It is a relatively small group of developers, but they are very active. The community is also growing speedily and their wiki is very informative. They do not however believe in things like marketing, they aim to KISS and technical merits... not doing what it takes to gain users. You should definitely give it a trial run of maybe a week or so... I think that is all it'll take to fall in love. I've been away from it for only 3 days and miss it :( --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss