Quite so, - As you can see this message was sent using plain text. On newer versions of Drupal/mailman there is an option for text only within the lists. Hans doesn't have all the plugin features enabled on his Drupal. NOTE: Older version as heavily customized as Hans' system were difficult to mod. http://www.nobleprog.co.uk/training/managing+mailing+lists+mailman http://www.Obnosis.com | (503)754-4452 > From: alex@crackpot.org > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: NOT OT: re plain text vs HTML - DRUPAL User HTML/TEXT Settings at SIGNUP > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:36:01 -0700 > > The 'input format' option doesn't make a lot of sense to me. > Specifying an email as plaintext, html, multipart, etc, is done by the > mail client, not by the mailing list that distributes the message > (mailman) or by an integrated CMS (Drupal). This looks like > configuration for how system admins can send messages to all site users. > > If users choose to send a message containing only HTML, that's > unfortunate. It's not any harder to sent a multi-part email which > will be much easier for text-to-speech and other non-visual clients to > use. Configuring that has been easy in the mail clients I've used > recently (Apple Mail and Thunderbird). But I don't think the Drupal > config posted below has any bearing on that issue. What am I missing? > > The mailman options I see for my list subscription allow me to select > a mime or plaintext digest, if I want to get a digest version of the > list. Other than than, I don't see any delivery-format options at http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/mailman/options/plug-discuss/ > . > > alex > > > On Feb 3, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > >> HTML Email: >> >> As you can see below, Drupal can be configured for HTML only mimemail. >> If Drupal is installed correctly and permissions allow, users can >> choose HTML mail during signup. >> >> MimeMail plugin is only available for Drupal 4.7 http://drupal.org/project/Modules/category/64 >> Here's the Mailman plugin for Drupal 5/6:http://webscripts.softpedia.com/script/Modules/Drupal-Modules/User-mailman-register-47712.html >> >> Here's what the configuration looks like: >> >> From http://hackfest.obnosis.com (Drupal 5.3) and http://l0calh0st.obnosis.com >> (Drupal 6.5) >> Mail >> Please choose a mail engine. >> E-mail address: >> A valid e-mail address for this website, used by the auto-mailer >> during registration, new password requests, notifications, etc. >> Use mime mail for all messages >> Use the mime mail module to deliver all site messages. With this >> option, system emails will have styles and formatting >> Input format >> Filtered HTML >> • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links >> automatically. >> • Allowed HTML tags: >> >> • Lines and paragraphs break automatically. >> PHP code >> • You may post PHP code. You should include tags. >> Full HTML >> • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links >> automatically. >> • Lines and paragraphs break automatically. >> • Allowed HTML tags: >> >> • You may post PHP code. You should include tags. >> MediaWiki markup >> More information about formatting options >> Plaintext email only >> This option disables the use of email messages with graphics and >> styles. All messages will be converted to plain text. >> Advanced Settings >> Process incoming messages posted to this site >> This is an advanced setting that should not be enabled unless you >> know what you are doing >> Message validation string: * >> This string will be used to validate incoming messages. It can be >> anything, but must be used on both sides of the transfer >> E-mail engine: Mime Mail - Default mailing engine using >> drupal_mail().SMTP - SMTP mailing engine using SMTP module. >> Choose an e-mail engine for sending mails from your site. >> >> So, that's using the mimemail plugin and the choices are defined in >> the USER SETTINGs at the signup site. >> >> For Administrators, multiple mailing lists can be easily setup and >> administered via Drupal. >> >> >> http://www.Obnosis.com | (503)754-4452 >> http://l0calh0st.obnosis.com | http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com >> | http://nuke.obnosis.com >> PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday Every Month@Noon - 3PM >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:31:13 -0700 >>> Subject: NOT OT: re plain text vs HTML >>> From: lthielster@gmail.com >>> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> >>> Technomage wrote: >>>>There are, in fact, a few of us (like me) who use text only >> readers for >>>>various reasons (such as visual impairment) and html formatted >> messages >>>>are definitely the bane of out existence. >>>> >>>>its been proper etiquette on the internet since its inception >> that mail >>>>usually is plain text and if you wish to send media (pictures, >> etc) that >>>>its attached (in mime printable form). this may seem archaic, but >> it >>>>generally works out well for most of us. >>>> >>>>now my client here can read html formatted messages, but the speech >>>>device will not read me the output, instead it will read the >> underlying >>>>source of the text (which gets noisy, frustrating, and tends to >> have me >>>>filter such without even reading it) >>>> >>>>I, for one, have a problem with such mails and tend to filter >> them into >>>>the junk box. if anything important gets in there, its gone (if its >>>>really important, the sender will have sent as plain text with an >> html >>>>attachment . this way, I can still read it and those >> with >>>>extra features can use the html to their own contentment). >>>> >>>>sorry of I may seem a bit terse toward those using html formatted >> text >>>>messages, but you folks should be aware there are almost 30 million >>>>others like me and we would rather not have our lives made any >> harder >>>>than it already is. >>> >>> Finally a good reason to use plain text as opposed to reasons to >> avoid >>> HTML. I confess this had not occurred to me. I would have think that >>> modern text readers would read HTML embedded text without source >> tags >>> etc. even had I thought about it. If there are not, there certainly >>> need to be. Sounds like an opportunity for someone. >>> >>> I use gmail for this list and a few other things. gmail really has >> no >>> formatting means for plain text which is one reason to prefer the >>> "Rich formatting" option. To even include technomages comment as >>> "quoted" I had to manually insert the symbols on each line. Other >>> email clients offer more formatting tools for plain text. Sounds >> like >>> a suggestion to send to google. >>> >>> For most email I use Thunderbird. Thunderbird has an option that >> says >>> "When sending messages in HTML and one or more recipients are not >>> listed as being able to receive HTML:" >>> - Ask me what to do >>> - Convert the message to plain text >>> - Send the message in HTML anyway >>> - Send the message in both plain text and HTML >>> >>> I think the last option is the default, but all I know for sure is >>> that is what mine is set to. I never checked whether that means it >>> sends both to all recipients or separate sends for plain text >>> recipients. Would that email had something similar. >>> >>> **** Technomage, do you know if your reader works right for a >> message >>> that Thunderbird sends with that 4th option? >>> >>> The Tbird address book allows you to specify for each recipient what >>> format they prefer. I notice also that the send options in >>> Thunderbird allow format selection based on the destination domain. >>> Mine shows a number of domains under HTML, but none under Plain Text >>> -- >>> Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only >>> animal that is struck with the difference between what things are >> and >>> what they ought to be. >>> - William Hazlitt >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. 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