On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: > Technomage wrote: >>There are, in fact, a few of us (like me) who use text only readers for >>various reasons (such as visual impairment) and html formatted messages >>are definitely the bane of out existence. >> >>its been proper etiquette on the internet since its inception that mail >>usually is plain text and if you wish to send media (pictures, etc) that >>its attached (in mime printable form). this may seem archaic, but it >>generally works out well for most of us. >> >>now my client here can read html formatted messages, but the speech >>device will not read me the output, instead it will read the underlying >>source of the text (which gets noisy, frustrating, and tends to have me >>filter such without even reading it) >> >>I, for one, have a problem with such mails and tend to filter them into >>the junk box. if anything important gets in there, its gone (if its >>really important, the sender will have sent as plain text with an html >>attachment . this way, I can still read it and those with >>extra features can use the html to their own contentment). >> >>sorry of I may seem a bit terse toward those using html formatted text >>messages, but you folks should be aware there are almost 30 million >>others like me and we would rather not have our lives made any harder >>than it already is. > > Finally a good reason to use plain text as opposed to reasons to avoid > HTML. I confess this had not occurred to me. I would have think that > modern text readers would read HTML embedded text without source tags > etc. even had I thought about it. If there are not, there certainly > need to be. Sounds like an opportunity for someone. > > I use gmail for this list and a few other things. gmail really has no > formatting means for plain text which is one reason to prefer the > "Rich formatting" option. To even include technomages comment as > "quoted" I had to manually insert the symbols on each line. Other > email clients offer more formatting tools for plain text. Sounds like > a suggestion to send to google. > > For most email I use Thunderbird. Thunderbird has an option that says > "When sending messages in HTML and one or more recipients are not > listed as being able to receive HTML:" > - Ask me what to do > - Convert the message to plain text > - Send the message in HTML anyway > - Send the message in both plain text and HTML > > I think the last option is the default, but all I know for sure is > that is what mine is set to. I never checked whether that means it > sends both to all recipients or separate sends for plain text > recipients. Would that email had something similar. > > **** Technomage, do you know if your reader works right for a message > that Thunderbird sends with that 4th option? > > The Tbird address book allows you to specify for each recipient what > format they prefer. I notice also that the send options in > Thunderbird allow format selection based on the destination domain. > Mine shows a number of domains under HTML, but none under Plain Text Mimedefang is useful for fixing this problem at the SMTP server level. It works as a miter for Sendmail as well as Postfix. the URL is http://www.mimedefang.org/ I don't know if it can do anything for ASCII art ;) Ed --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss