I would say kde4 was the vista of kde. To many changes and to much flair pushed on people with no real classic mode. I got kde4 working 90% the way I wanted but there were still some things that I would look cross eyed at. On 1/24/09, Stephen wrote: > this is the reality of the computing world really. technology does not > exist for its own sake, but for the sake of supplying the need. > windows linux apple OS2 wichever if it pisses people off it fails. > > Overall people really dont want to invest a horrible amount of time > into making something work unless absolutely needed. i think that tis > reality is soemthign ubuntu met incredibly well. they took a very good > base and pacakge management system and put alot of polish into it and > i think for most users its great.. > > but in the end i see RH/CentOs/SUSE being the business favored > backend, for now.. and that only because of RPM more than anything > else.. there are some things that just get easier to do with an RPM > than rolling a script and sorting it out. i may be smark, but i lack > the special patience that a decent programmer needs, and therfore i > look for thigns that others have built and assemble them as needed. > > This is a reality of the world, even in somsone who has the codeing > familiarity with linux as Torvaldis he still breaks down to a point > where it makes his life easier to work in the same way... > > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> James, there are a lot of clear advantages to using the Ubuntu >> distro. For starters its far more stable than Kubuntu. >> >> I used to be a Kubuntu guy, but I just gave into Ubuntu, its the >> easiest way for me to run Linux, plus its an easy sell to a manager, >> etc. Even though we all value choice, sometimes you just gotta get >> with the program. >> >> -jmz >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:43 PM, James Finstrom >> wrote: >>> I was a kde user and still like and use a lot of kde apps. I fought >>> the gnome thing because I didn't like the feel and noo need to mess >>> with it when I have kde. Well after the ubuntu 8.10 presentation I >>> noticed I was missing several of ubuntus toys that didn't get rolled >>> in to kubuntu so I decided to install gnome. After about 5 minutes I >>> had it looking and feeling like my friend kde so I got to have my cake >>> and eat it too this is the true beauty of linux. I have kdm installes >>> still but haven't signed in to it since I made the gnome leap >>> >>> On 1/24/09, Tuna wrote: >>>> You just lit a blaze in a fireworks factory, my friend. >>>> >>>> FLAMEWAR OH SHI- >>>> >>>> Jason wrote: >>>>> I'm shocked it took him so long to wisen up...isn't he a genius? :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 16:17 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >>>>>> I'm shocked. -jmz >>>>>> >>>>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F24%2F1842218&from=rss >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> >>> James Finstrom >>> Rhino Equipment Corp. >>> http://rhinoequipment.com ~ http://postug.com >>> Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826 >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment >>> IP: guest@asterisk.rhinoequipment.com >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my mobile device James Finstrom Rhino Equipment Corp. http://rhinoequipment.com ~ http://postug.com Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826 Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment IP: guest@asterisk.rhinoequipment.com --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss