this is the reality of the computing world really. technology does not exist for its own sake, but for the sake of supplying the need. windows linux apple OS2 wichever if it pisses people off it fails. Overall people really dont want to invest a horrible amount of time into making something work unless absolutely needed. i think that tis reality is soemthign ubuntu met incredibly well. they took a very good base and pacakge management system and put alot of polish into it and i think for most users its great.. but in the end i see RH/CentOs/SUSE being the business favored backend, for now.. and that only because of RPM more than anything else.. there are some things that just get easier to do with an RPM than rolling a script and sorting it out. i may be smark, but i lack the special patience that a decent programmer needs, and therfore i look for thigns that others have built and assemble them as needed. This is a reality of the world, even in somsone who has the codeing familiarity with linux as Torvaldis he still breaks down to a point where it makes his life easier to work in the same way... On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > James, there are a lot of clear advantages to using the Ubuntu > distro. For starters its far more stable than Kubuntu. > > I used to be a Kubuntu guy, but I just gave into Ubuntu, its the > easiest way for me to run Linux, plus its an easy sell to a manager, > etc. Even though we all value choice, sometimes you just gotta get > with the program. > > -jmz > > > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:43 PM, James Finstrom > wrote: >> I was a kde user and still like and use a lot of kde apps. I fought >> the gnome thing because I didn't like the feel and noo need to mess >> with it when I have kde. Well after the ubuntu 8.10 presentation I >> noticed I was missing several of ubuntus toys that didn't get rolled >> in to kubuntu so I decided to install gnome. After about 5 minutes I >> had it looking and feeling like my friend kde so I got to have my cake >> and eat it too this is the true beauty of linux. I have kdm installes >> still but haven't signed in to it since I made the gnome leap >> >> On 1/24/09, Tuna wrote: >>> You just lit a blaze in a fireworks factory, my friend. >>> >>> FLAMEWAR OH SHI- >>> >>> Jason wrote: >>>> I'm shocked it took him so long to wisen up...isn't he a genius? :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 16:17 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >>>>> I'm shocked. -jmz >>>>> >>>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F24%2F1842218&from=rss >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> James Finstrom >> Rhino Equipment Corp. >> http://rhinoequipment.com ~ http://postug.com >> Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826 >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment >> IP: guest@asterisk.rhinoequipment.com >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss