Crossover was very good for a number of things. the issues i had was trying to get some of the cisco apps to run, they may be java but id be durned to get them to work in anything but a VM, and then i needed to run the blackberry software and that ran in wine, but i didnt get the USB transaltion to cooperate well at all. there were a couple of others. but those were the main breakers. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, James Finstrom wrote: > I have had decent luck with crossover. It is not free software (but it was > free as in beer for a day) I don't actually do much with it as I have been > clean from windows so long I actually had to go seek out apps to install in > it because I didn't use any windows apps. I was able to run googles new > browser via the crossover guys and to have Photoshop on Linux thanks to > crossover so the few apps I find useful or the apps i wanna mess with > because they are suppose to be the coolest thing since canned beer it seems > to work. I am not a gamer in fact the last PC game I played was Duke Nukem > and that lasted all of 10 minutes so I cant speak much to that aspect. If > you are one of those WOW people I hear that runs in crossover but I couldn't > say for sure. > > > James Finstrom > Rhino Equipment Corp. > http://rhinoequipment.com ~ http://postug.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Stephen wrote: >> >> Honestly i liked vista, i ran the beta and it was weird but there were >> a number of thigns, the weird started to fade away as MS released >> backwards compatability patches and software developers wrote their >> code to be more compatible. Windows 7 is looking to fix a few of my >> bigger complaints of Vista (running slimmer and without as much >> overhead). but some of the same weirdness is ricgh back on the block >> regarding driver and software compatability. >> >> I get this, it is a beta, and to stay bleeding edge this is soemthing >> im more than willing to deal with. >> >> I also ran my Desktop that is running windows 7 as a full linux >> machine for a couple motnhs as a test to see what i cna and cant get >> away with. in the meantime i really liked it as a desktop environment, >> learned a great deal about it as a workstation, but also realised i >> have certain needs in my job that just cannot be circumvented with >> wine/vm. so back to windows i go. >> >> but at home once i get a new video card im all over it. >> >> Heck my boss and i talk about the delight of running/administering a >> 100% opensource network. firewall to desktop. and we do some real >> studies about how much of your personal needs you can replace with >> opensource software. and i can get pretty darn close. so can he.. we >> just have a few apps we are trying to sort out. >> >> for me the difficulty comes in i am a gamer... and well most of the >> gams i play are windows based... so i either need to get really >> creative with wine or dual boot. >> >> I personally would like to see a fork of the wine project that will >> merge the two.. so your wine install ties into an existing windows >> install so you can attempt to run applications from a dual booted >> environment. but i think thats a digression. >> >> The big hurt on MS is really that people dont like change, and for a >> long time MS didnt change much. win 95 -> 98 -> ME and NT 3.x -> NT4 >> -> Win 2k -> win XP didnt chang emuch.. peopel had more or less the >> Same UI and admin needs and whatnot available for about13 years now. >> and MS is telling them sorry to keep things going you have to change >> to this new UI and backend? sorry peopel stayed with windows over >> unix/linux not becuase of any great love of MS its their desire to not >> change and learn something new. >> >> thats been the biggest grive about an OS upgrade of anyone i have >> talked with... its different they have to relearn things. >> >> now vista and windows 7 come along... >> >> thats why MS is laying ppl off. that and the fact nobody can aford to >> buy a new OS OEM pricing of windows home basic is about 80 bux not >> calculating discounts and then vor vista ultimate its about 200. >> windows 7 will be about the same. >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. 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