This is a good selling point for googles threading as I only see 4 emails for (10,000) I personaly am intrigued by any conversation on almost any subject politics, religion, the north eastern migration of mutant snails. I do see the point of others that this list should be for linux chat but outdide chatter is easily filtered client side if rules like OT are followed. Outside of viagra emails top end moderation and filters will degrade the list because someone would have to manage it then they get beat on if they oops and let something go or don't let something go. We are all (mostly) adults here I am sure if some official base rules are imposed like subject tags they will be followed then a temp ban on abusers or perminent ban on those to thick to learn. I would like to see. OT: off topic BIZ: linux business DIST: distro related CE: current events news linux related LE: local linux events MN: meeting news Eo: employment and gigs This would make filtering out flagging and highlighting pretty smooth On 11/7/08, Vaughn Treude wrote: > Micah DesJardins wrote: >> Dear PLUGers, >> >> I've sat back. I've been patient and quiet. I have not put forward my >> political or religious beliefs. I have refrained from name calling, >> slander, and prophecies of doom and/or salvation. This conversation >> has spilled over into half a dozen threads and is neither fruitful nor >> relevant to Linux/Unix or Open Source. We need to remember why we are >> here in the first place: To share our enthusiasm and interest for >> Linux and Open Source in general. There are a lot of intelligent and >> generous people who frequent this list and I would hate to lose out on >> their guidance and experience because we could not see past our >> differences and remember our similarities. Your religious beliefs are >> your business as are your political views. If I wanted to discuss >> either with you, I would have joined a political / religious mailing >> list. Please be respectful of one another. I don't have a problem >> with people disagreeing. The beauty of a difference of opinion is >> that both parties have the opportunity to look at something in a way >> they had not previously considered. Whether either party chooses to >> do so isn't so much important. There is however an art to >> constructive difference of opinion. I'd like to think that name >> calling, slander, and personal abuse have no place on this list. My >> issue is that you have taken things so far afield that there's really >> no point in reading PLUG if I have to wade through 80+ posts on things >> I don't care about to get to the 5 things I have interest in. Please >> keep PLUG Geeky, and leave your political and religious issues at the >> door. >> > > I'll second that. I checked my email today, seeing 300+ messages, and > thought, "woah, my spam filter died!" I was surprised to see that well > over a hundred of them were PLUG. > I hate to see PLUG turning into a politico-religious brawl. There are a > lot of really good political sites where you can rant. One such good one > is nolanchart.com, whose name comes from David Nolan, one of the > founders of the Libertarian Party. All viewpoints are welcome, and it's > easy to start a column there, providing you agree to a few rules, such > as not using profanity or personal insults. Kind of a quaint notion > these days, but you can still express any conceivable opinion. It just > got to the point, with all the total-BS political emails I was getting, > that I felt I had to express my indignation, without necessarily pissing > off the friends and colleagues who were sending me that nonsense in the > first place. The only downside is I'm definitely on the DHS "dangerous > radical" list now, if I wasn't already on it. :-) > > Vaughn > > >> Thanks, >> >> Micah DesJardins >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my mobile device James Finstrom Rhino Equipment Corp. http://rhinoequipment.com ~ http://postug.com Sometimes for it to "just work" you have to think outside the box! Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 ~ FAX: +1 (480) 961-1826 IP: guest@asterisk.rhinoequipment.com --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss